Maybe not in this thread, I was making a broader generalization - as it's certainly evident across most forums I frequent and discussions I've read. There's a strong misconception out there with many that Ivy = Hot so it's automatically worse than Sandy. Often times the people coming out with such things are sat with minor OC's. Of course if you intend to run a higher OC it's going to be a problem. But then upgrading to Ivy from Sandy seems utterly pointless to me in pretty much all scenarios. In some cases (such as you've stated) it may even result in a downgrade.