Apple targets Epic Games, claiming that its store will not turn a profit until 2027.

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Loobyluggs Ancient Guru

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    Ad hominem? Srsly?

    I would have thought Apple with its money would use a legal defence better than that...
     
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    emperorsfist Ancient Guru

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    It's fun to see two multi-billion companies act like toddlers.
     
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    But Apple is right this time. EGS suck and it's just a consumer trap. I always go GOG -> Steam -> gates of hell -> EGS.
     
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    Undying Ancient Guru

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    And yet you take their free games.
     
  6. Andy Watson

    Andy Watson Master Guru

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    That's an unusual defence for a company that is accused of using a monopoly to overcharge customers and vendors ... ie look how much profit Apple makes compared to the complainant.

    Only Apple and it's lawyers could be tone deaf enough to do that.
     
  7. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    no
    it's apple that sucks
    new phone can't use old charger and headphones,that fine for you ? a several thousand dollar pc can't be repaired ?

    but free games are worse than hell,right ?
    good grief people are dumb.
     
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    KissSh0t Ancient Guru

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    Valken Ancient Guru

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    It is free market trade and Capitalism. Why should any government entity enforce a profit ceiling? The country is run by oligarchs afterall.
     
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    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    Apple might be right in what they say, but that has actually nothing to do with the lawsuit / counter lawsuit, I'd believe. Maybe it has to do with it to a small extent, but the statement itself is just polemic.
     
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    FFS Apple. It's none of your procreating business how Epic runs EGS. Hell, it doesn't do jack in proving anything.
     
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    It's not free. You rent their games, if we are taking about DRM-Protected games that are being claimed for "free".
    And it's not free, because you pay with your privacy by using EGS alone.
     
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  13. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    yes
    rent
    forever
    with no charge
    it's exactly what renting is

    you got a house to rent btw ? i'm interested
     
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    TalentX Member Guru

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    For as long as Epic Games decides to keep the service running and for as long as they keep the conditions as it is now.

    No.
     
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    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    i'd still take that house in a blink
     

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    Apple's lawyers are digging themselves in a hole by needlessly speculating Epic's profit margins. There are many counter-arguments that would hurt their integrity, as if ad-hominem alone wouldn't do that.

    Where they do have a valid argument is that their marketplace does warrant some value. Doesn't mean it's fair or that they should charge as much as they do, but part of what you (as either a consumer or a developer) are paying for when using their marketplace are the regulations and (as stupid as it sounds) exclusivity.

    EGS isn't the last store I'd get my games from but it is toward the bottom. I think I took 1 or 2 of the free games back when they first started doing that, only to realize I'm wasting my time as I'll probably never sign in; I haven't so far.
     
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    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    free egs games are one of the best i've recently played

    i'd never have purchased or even known about ruiner,and it was fantastic.same with road to eden - I don't even play turn based strategies and I enjoyed the hell out of it.Same for observer,imo the best and most overlooked cyberpunk games,very heavy and very good.alan wake,frostpunk,the whole batman series,borderlands,the whole darksiders series,qube,that's not even half of them.

    they're not giving away crap games like steam,there have been soooooo many great ones.a plague tale just recently.
     
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    I 100% agree - EGS gives away a lot of enticing games, some of which I've wanted to play before being freebies. Unlike a lot of people, I don't necessarily have a problem with EGS as-is. I do, however, dislike Epic in general (not strongly, but enough) and I barely have the time to play games I paid for, let alone free ones.
     
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  19. cucaulay malkin

    cucaulay malkin Ancient Guru

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    same problem
    all of the games,none of the time
    when I did have time all I played was like a million hours of quake 3 arena
     
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    I've been playing Fortnite with my son (9), who is really into it. As a 43 year old, I'm surprised how much fun it is. I've probably put 200 hours into it over the last year and they got me to buy a few items from their shop.

    I can see why they're losing money hand-over-fist. Fortnite is this huge cash cow for them right now, and they can afford to burn the profits they're making from it to establish a foothold in the marketplace. I don't understand how anyone can think more competition is a bad thing...
     

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