Anyone sticking with Intel for their next upgrades?

I think its the 805 and its .09 micron... Actually, here it is:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116001&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch&ATT=19-116-001

 

seriously...cpu's dont make a huge diff except in benchmarks....over the past 6 years ive used amd and intel chips back and forth....there is really no difference....its your videocard that has to be hauling ass in a game not your cpu....the only place i have ever seen amd chips perform better is in SLI environment....the fx-55 has the raw power to really bring a SLI system to peak performance..other than that intel and amd fanboys need to stop getting into the console-like flamewars....seriously

 

Check out the celeron D

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=88570


Awsome chip.

 

This thread was about the stability of the nF4 platform for AMD...not the 'performance' of nF4 on either Intel or AMD systems. I don't see many fanboys here - I was just trying to say that the nF4 platform is stable on socket 939 [it's fairly buggy for LGA-775] and that there will always be problems with any chipset. I use AMD-based and Intel-based systems for different applications - and I don't notice instabilities with either.

That OC is amazing. Looks very promising :banana:

 

I'm sure that guy isn't hurting for performance, but a Celeron is still a Celeron:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/celeron-d_8.html

With anything cache sensitive it will probably not beat a 4.0 GHz P4.

Edit: Well, apparently Intel has upped the cache to 512 kb. Still 1/4, but given the nonexistant lead for 2 MB I suppose these would do much bettter...

 

Cornbreadbreath this is what the ORIGINAL thread is about.....Anyone sticking with Intel for their next upgrades? And why choose it over AMD?

Is it the HT? Is it stability? Compatibility? Specs? Is it 'snappiness' and quick responses in certain applications that are important to you? Is it cost?

Its certainly not gaming and FPS. Or is it?

I've never used AMD and would appreciate your opinions as I plan on a new PC within the near future. You see, I'm quite happy with my 2.8 Northwood, but MAY consider going AMD the next time around.

Thanks.


Stick to the thread buddy....

 

In June Intel is releasing the Conroe line based on the P-M, and no more P4s will come out expect perhaps Celerons. So unless you like what's out right now, sticking with Intel means Conroe. Conroe is much more like the Athlon, short pipeline and all that, sounds like its debuting with speeds up to just under 3.0 GHz, just like AMD. They'll both support up to DDR2-800 RAM, though AMD should have a slight advantage because there is no FSB bottleneck. HT is history. Conroe will have 4 MB shared cache, so that is presumbably an advantage over 2x 1 MB, but the shared cache thing apparently increases latency a bit. The Athlon has the integrated memory controller advantage.

So if you're going to stick with Intel, the only thing in common with your P4 experiences would just be the chipset... its relative performance will likely not varry across applications like the P4 vs. Athlon. Comparing processor performance will likely get a lot simpler again, like back in the days of the Athlon vs P3.

 

not 2x 1 MB ....on die 2MB

 

P4's alredy suport ddr2-800 just chipset based suport going on a upwards divider.

The -65nm chips even out the playing feild when it comes to performance vs the pr rating on amd64's

The yonah alredy beast the amd-64 clock per clock.

Reson to stick with intel you may ask? Simple for me.

I was playing a game while burning a dvd and doing a complete scan on a second hard disk a fiew hours ago. The system didnt hickup or slow down. Game ran smooth and dvd burned and hard disk was promply scaned. And I only run a single core with hyperthreading. Not bad huh?

Ive been doing this kind of stuff since I owned a tualatin celeron. Dosent hickup on any aplication I throw at it. Ive played around with amds as well. Not bad but a intel suits my taste better.

 

Thanks for that link. I guess they are dumping old cores on the 805. Then its not worth buying because of the 90nanometer fabrication.

Ah well you loose some and you win some

 

Huh? All cache in on-die nowadays. AMD and the P4 use seperate cache for each core, but Yonah/Conroe use one cache for both cores.

 

Witch isnt bad because cache stores data wating to be processed. So each core can pick up a chunk and spit it back having a more stremlined mp setup. That could also have a bit of latency problem on the other hand.

 

L3 cache

My CPU is a SINGLE core and the L3 cache is one on-die unit...2 MB...hence the expensive manufacturing costs to produce this single die...not many Intel 3.2 GHz Extreme Edition 800 MHz FSB cpu's were produced...I've overclocked to 3.68 GHz with no problems but it ran a little hot 48'C.....lol

 

Yeah, that's back when "extreme edition" actually meant something. Though they were actually just the Xeon cores that would commonly come with extra L3 cache... apparently Intel abandoned that practice with .09 micron, hence "EE" became 1066 FSB and/or HT instead. I read something that Intel will launch quad-core chip in late 06 or early 07 as an EE, and AMD is planning to counter with a dual-core FX with extra L3 cache--AMD apparently won't be ready for quad since they must have all 4 cores on one die because of the integrated memory controller whereas Intel can just stick two seperate dual-core dies on the same package. Hopefully AMD won't pull a 940 FX and offer up Opterons with the registered memory requirement again, not sure what they're cooking up exactly.

 

i have had no problems with my intel 2.8c overclockd it 20% and it still hasnt given me problems. cooling it on stock fan too. but im going to a amd x2 soon. i want that little extra out of games. gaming is what i like most. i used to use a amd 2400+ back in the day, had no problems with that either.

 

always dreamt of an EE northwood however never was going to shell out that kind of money

and before anyone corrects me with a smart ass comment that there are no northwood EEs because theyre gallatin cores.. well youve been beaten ha

 

I have P4 2.8 OC @ 3.2 and works fine I will be sticking with intel for my next system. I had to amd's before and had nothing but problems with them, I run more than games on system so thats just me.

 

Extreme comments....Please refer to the IIntel® Xeon™ Processor with 800
MHz System Bus at 2.80 GHz and 3.60 GHz Datasheet for detailed mechanical specifications......lol

 

lol soo extreme..
wonders about conroe extreme edition.. rumors are its gonna be a 3.33ghz part

 

I will stay with Intel. My 2.6C Northwood has been awesome for almost 3 years along with my ASUS P4P800 Deluxe with an Intel 865PERL chipset. It satisfies my urge for speed and snapiness in programs and desktop stuff.