Anyone is saving money for a Matisse build??

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  1. kens30

    kens30 Maha Guru

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    Sadly 300 and 400 series motherboards won't support PCI-Express gen 4.0.
    You will need to upgrade to a 500 series motherboard as well as Cpu.
     
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    By not putting them in harm's way :)
     
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  3. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    So far the build will likely have the following:

    Fractal Design Meshify C
    EVGA G3 650 W

    CPU : 3600X or 3700X
    Motherboard : still undecided between X470 and X570
    GPU : tough one, have to wait for new AMD GPU review.
    16 GB DDRAM 4 @3777 ( Infinity Fabric 1:1 ratio)
    Already have NVME and SSD storage.

    Sounds outrageous and stupid, but this build will not have Windows installed. ( and let's hope my *Nix skills are up to date). Maybe opinion will change due to unforeseen circumstances, but I would like to stick to my guns.
     
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  4. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    @Geryboy what cooling solutions do you intend to use for that 3900X?
    The X570 Aorus looks beasty. Man, exciting times for new builds.
    However, I am afraid of steep prices for X570 motherboards.
     
  5. Netherwind

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    My rig will probably look like this:
    CPU - 3800X or 3900X
    Mobo - MSI X570 Gaming Edge or Gaming Plus
    RAM - G.Skill 2x8GB 3200MHz CL14 (I'll try to OC)
    GPU - MSI 2080Ti Gaming X Trio

    Storage wise I currently have two M.2, one SSD and one HDD. I think it would be better to skip one of the M.2 and go for a much larger SSD.

    Case - Lian Li O-11 Dynamic
    Fans - Corsair LL120 RGB x 3

    CPU cooling - My current MSI Core L should fit but I might go for a Corsair H100i RGB Platinum SE

    GPU riser - Might get one since it would cool the CPU even more and should look badass.
     
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  6. sverek

    sverek Ancient Guru

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    So what's the deal with X470 needing a flash to work with matisse? Is it confirmed? If it is, how soon vendors will ship flashed x470?
     
  7. fantaskarsef

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    Probably will behave like the last time with AMD. Needs a working APU / CPU to flash the BIOS, you'll get a BIOS chip sent (ASRock did that), or at some point the new BIOS version will ship when the old mainboards are gone. I have never seen that "replacement CPU" from AMD myself, but I've heard they supposedly did that as well.
    Nothing confirmed that I stumbled over at this point afaik, but I have an old AM4 APU at hand, just in case...
     
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    Yeah, I built my family a PC last month and motherboard was already flashed to support 2200g APU (which wasn't initially)
    The flash was done by the vendor, AFTER the motherboard was produced afaik.

    Hope to see a swift flashing follow up from vendors! Less pain for consumers, pretty please.
     
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  9. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Most important decisions will be made after I will read reviews and head on comparing X470 Vs X570.
    Learning for past mistakes, I will go for higher tier CPU, in the long run will maintain value when I will have to upgrade again.So, I am aiming between 3700X-3800X.
    But I will build my new computer "backwards".
    I'll explain: will buy now the computer case and the PSU.
    Then, late autumn Black Friday will go after components, lower prices and while learning what issues are found and workarounds.
    Impulse buy now for the novelty is expensive twofold: higher prices and beta testing new released hardware.
    More on it, being an *Nix person, I would expect new kernel releases with more support for the upcoming build.
    So, by now Fractal Design Meshify C and EVGA Super Nova G3 750 W for now.
    Meanwhile I have a new project to keep me busy: Frankepad build an ThinkPad T440p.
     
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    32gb 3200mhz speeds
    1tb solid snake drive (samsung 970 evo plus)
     
  11. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    Along with X570 boards, manufacturers should release memory kits rated higher than 3200 as I understood that for the new Infinity Fabric the 1:1 ratio is at 3777... could be mistaken.
    Moreover, the overall performance gains over X470 is what I am keen to learn.
    @Hilbert Hagedoorn, X470 Vs X570 should be dissected with lasers, because the results should balance the decision of budget conscious builders.
    And I know for sure that Hilbert will definitely deliver one hell of a review.
     
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    Anyone is saving money for a Mattise build??
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    Please DON'T


     
  13. sverek

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    why preorder? Is itch so strong?
     
  14. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    I completely understand the itch.
    To "scratch" that itch, one doesn't need to preorder.
     
  15. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    One can safely assume that there will be a rush to grab those Ryzen off the shelves, luckily I always want to buy after the hubbub settled down.
    No hurry, I know too well what I want and I can wait patiently. I became wiser.
     
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    same here.

    EDIT: I still not sure if I want to jump on Zen2. Most games I play can be handled by 2500k.
    Probably gonna get a new video card, try some new games and then decide if I need a new CPU.

    I am still interested to see what Intel been cooking.
     
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  17. Hyderz

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    intel has been cooking undercooked 10nm processors, thats why they not ready :p
     
  18. BOYDIE-NI

    BOYDIE-NI Master Guru

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    I understand the itch, that upgrade bug is like a little monster that grows and grows deep in your brain. I've just upgraded from an FX8350 ddr 3 era setup, to a 1st Gen Ryzen 5 1400 4c/8t and b450.
    As much as Id want to upgrade to a 3600 right now Ill wait and see what the reviews say (slush fund permitting). Its all horses for courses, I try to upgrade only when I feel that games cant or don't run at med to low settings with consistent FPS. My missus would kill me if she knew what I just spent lol!

    I used to put a lot of stock in having the latest hardware a few years ago, but with a wife and kids I just cant justify it any more, as long as it works just run with it.

    But that 3600 just looks very good …..:)
     
  19. Hyderz

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    you need to put more points into speech like in skyrim to convince wife :D
     
  20. anticupidon

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    @BOYDIE-NI
    Try this: every time wife uses a computer, be sure the computer is borked.
    Make sure that her shows, media run like slideshows...
    She will beg you to upgrade.
    Unbeknownst to my wife I've swapped her HTPC and Netflix and all ran on a dual core Celeron.
    After a few tantrums and metldowns, I casually offered a "small" upgrade..
    So my 2200G /MSI B450/8GB upgrade was very warmly welcomed,and I get to be the best hubby from my wife
    It's all about playing the good card, even that you think that you've got the wrong one.
    How else wifes from all around the world can "upgrade" their "gear" to another purse, pair of shoes?
    I digress.
    Waiting for reviews, Sunday morning I'll be locked in my room, sipping coffee and indulge on tech pr0n.
     
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    Planning to build a brand new 3900x + RTX 2070 Super rig for 1440p all-around usage.
     
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  22. anticupidon

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    Hardware reviewers are working triple shifts to upload their results.
    All those launches: Ryzen 3 , Navi and new Nvidia iterations at the same time.
    All those variables and configurations.
    @Hilbert Hagedoorn , take care man. No need to be first, just one then other.
    Really, don't forget to rest, we all know the astounding work behind all those reviews.

    Have my money saved for the build, just price hunt now.
     
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  23. Undying

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    Not preordering anything, gonna wait few months after the release but i already saved up enough.

    Im thinking :

    R5 3600
    Aorus B450 Elite
    16/32GB 3200mhz

    RX580 will stay for now until i have enough for RX 5700/5800.
     
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  24. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

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    My build:
    3700X
    16 GB RAM
    EVGA 650G3 PSU
    MSI B450 Mortar
    Asus X470 Prime Pro
    Or X570 but undecided for now.
    RX 5700/5700XT ??
    Later on I will decide
     
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    Price gouging sites aside..
    The Taichi should be ~250 (some places have it already listed)
    The crosshair viii hero wifi ~370
    Aorus Master ~360
    Then again perhaps availability might be poor and these prices won't be representative at all.

    Those are the 3 ive been thinking of buying anyway Taichi is my cheap choice (uses T-topology for ram tho, so who knows how that'll work with AMD pushing Fly-By).
    Probably going for a 3900x/Master combo but.. yeah a few hours left to see if my choices hold up post review.
     
  26. anticupidon

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    Hmm...a bit on expensive side.
    But it was to be expected. Manufacturers really got on AMD train, and with confidence made boards with everything available.
     

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