that they just don't want to let go of...and even keep tinkering with it, finding old parts on ebay to upgrade it? lol My old rig: cpu: Q6600 @3.5ghz (great proc) Mobo: Abit IP35 Pro mem: 8gb ddr2 video card: 9600 I know it sounds stupid, but since I just upgraded my video card to a 1070, I have 2 970's that don't have a home. Just for grins, I found a Asus 775 680i mobo, and 8 more gig of ddr2 on ebay. Going load it all up, and see how it benches. Think my cpu will bottleneck the 970's? LOL!