Anyone given up smoking? And is Vaping?

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  1. sdamaged99

    sdamaged99 Ancient Guru

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    People don't realise that "some" vapers are actually worse than smoking normal cigarettes

    Yes they don't contain tar, and nicotine by itself is fairly harmless, but having a friend who works as a radiographer, he has told me of the internal burning suffered by many vapers, which will never heal, unlike tar damage which can be reversed in time

    To ensure that only safe products are being released and used by the public, they should be regulated more strictly
     
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  2. StewieTech

    StewieTech Chuck Norris

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    I dont understand vaping. Why not just quit smoking? Yes its hard as balls but after some time you just forget you ever did it.
     
  3. Jawnys

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    so i want to try those vaporesso coils in my triton atlantis, i just need a place to buy them here in montreal , from what i ve red so far they are a game changer :)
     
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    Have you not heard of the TPD ?

    It's the EU's answer to your concerns, although in practice it is so flawed that all it does is inconvenience the consumer, along with making governments a bit of cash of course.

    A useless bit of legislation, poorly thought out with no net effect on the consumer.

    EDIT : I have to admit that there was some short term benefit for us vapers, I managed to snag some TFV12's at less than 1/2 their previous price.
    So, not all bad.
     
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    i bought the ccell coil today from vaporesso and tried in in my triton v1, i have to say that i really love the taste with these coil, its so soft and amazing !
     
  6. sdamaged99

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    Interesting read on TPD, thanks for that

    I can't see where it mentions anything relating to the burn damage, but maybe its in there somewhere

    I personally don't think vapers should be seen as the latest must have gadget with multiple flavours. I would rather it was a tool designed to get you off smoking, and eventually off the vaper

    As it stands, a lot of people seem to think its just a cool new accessory, and want to try out as many flavours as possible

    Surely this isn't a good thing?
     
  7. Zooke

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    I'm not sure there is anything related to internal burning in there either, however this is no new phenomena to me since I remember getting much hotter hits from the last remnants of a spliff.
    This in no way invalidates your point and I would be interested to know if there are differences in the temperatures of the stuff we are inhaling.
     
  8. Repo Man

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    Ordered a Geekvape Griffin 25 Plus and it arrived today, this thing is a cloud chugging beast and the flavour is nice too. I'm sure theres new better RTA's on the market but the Griffin is basically a Tsunami with a tank which is what I wanted and I'm not disapointed. First build is spot on too although it initially leaked a bit but I closed off the juice flow control and then gradually opened it up as I vaped and its now fully open with no leaks so I'm guessing it was a small vacuum issue when I filled up the tank.
     
  9. SerotoNiN

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    Vaping is proving to pose worse health risks than smoking. I've given up smoking cigarettes, weed and drinking alcohol in the last 15 months, in addition to losing 74 pounds and becoming active with a workout schedule and diet I follow. It's not hard to give those vices up if you REALLY WANT TO. Just saying you want to is a different story. It's all in your head. I never understood substituting vaping for smoking. It's still wasting money and posing health risks.
     
  10. drandiiski

    drandiiski Maha Guru

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    Good of you mate! Keep it up! Like, seriously..

    But please, don’t be one of those guys that just say this or that is bad, without any evidence to support it. I really don’t want to argue, or disrespect anyone’s opinion, but we need some serious data, before jumping to conclusions on what is what. I can’t speak for others, or their smoking/vaping habits, but I can tell from personal experience that it doesn’t feel like it is worse, quite the opposite. Sure you will be better off without it and it's best to just quit smoking and be done with it (I have done it before), but hey ..
     
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  11. Athlonite

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    I used Champix to ease the want for nicotine of a 35yr habit (my doc said I may suffer weird dreams I said what weirder than they are now ) then bought an Endura T18 and some non nicotine based fluid after 8 weeks I find I only use it occasionally when the urge to roll a smoke hits me.... So far so good my lungs are clear I can finally take a deep breath without wanting to coff a lung out and I can smell stuff again
     
  12. Athlonite

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    For some it isn't the smoking thats the problem it the having something to do with your hands.... muscle memory is a hard thing to unlearn and takes much longer than the nicotine withdrawal symptoms to go away
     
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    if you're vaping, you haven't given up crap.


    Pussies.
     
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    I feel like the physical sensation of craving nicotine actually only lasts 3–5 minutes, but the mental craving lasts far longer, and it’s very common to become fixated on it. I went cold Turkey and hang a picture of horrible looking skin on top of my cealing and it worked. But Good heavens was it hard!
     
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    I really don't know how some of you managed to quit smoking, maximum I've ever held out without cigs is 3 days, and I was a nervous wreck throughout those 3 days lol!! Whenever I saw someone else smoke I was getting craves like crazy and going next to them to smell the smoke haha!

    Good on you for the people that manage to hold out! :) But I'm not one of them... Guess I'm destined to die with lung cancer haha :p
     

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    dont see the appeal to be honest. Vaping can be just as bad for you i have read?
     
  17. Pyr0

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    You've read wrong, sorry.
    Vaping is all about harm reduction.
    Sure, it may not be completely "safe" but it's a magnitude better than combusting plant matter and inhaling all the tar and the chemicals & toxins they add to the tobacco.
     
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    The problem with regulations, is understanding. Regulations passed by people with no understanding of the product or industry they are trying to regulate, typically result in loss of jobs or complete failure of said industry. That's what the US is going through right now with BS "deeming" regulations where the FDA has decided that vaping products are the same as tobacco, yet want to regulate vaping products more strictly than they do tobacco products. Shops have been steadily closing since the regulations went into affect, even though the FDA claimed that their regulations would have no negative impact on jobs. The fee to have a single vaping product "approved" is higher than having any tobacco product "approved". The "approval" process for vaping products is also considerably longer than for tobacco products.

    Internal burning comes from improper use of tanks designed for high wattage, the use of high PG liquids or "drippers" used at "extreme" wattages. If the tank or atomizer suffers "spit back" at high wattages or high temperatures....internal burning is the result.

    Nicotine isn't the problem for all smokers. For some, it's the need to keep hands busy. For others, it's a dependency on those 3000+ additional chemicals that are added to cigarettes to increase addiction rate.

    It's actually a lot safer than people think, because people read studies based on false information or listen to people who read studies based on false information. Or they read studies funded by "big tobacco" who instruct researchers to operate vaping products outside of safe parameters.

    To put things into perspective... Wine is safe in moderation. Wine is unsafe when consumed in excess.

    Actually, he's not wrong. The older C4E style tanks that used silica wicks, if used improperly, had the potential to kill users faster than cigarettes. There was a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine about it a couple years ago. The study was funded by "big tobacco" with the intent of discrediting vaping and as such a C4E tank was run outside of safe parameters. When the old silica wicks are overheated, they produce a potentially deadly toxin. That's why silica is no longer being used in production of newer products. Unfortunately, there are still tanks available on the market that use silica wicks, which need to be banned.
     
  20. StewieTech

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    Dude you´re stronger than you think. I was climbing walls for 5 months straight but i managed to quit. After 1 year you´re basically indifferent to smoking. If i managed to quit smoking, everyone can.
     

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