any way to force install rtx cards on win10 1607 build? (or any pre 1709 win10 build)

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  1. maur0

    maur0 Master Guru

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    one solution is download quadro driver for windows server 2016 (is same build win10 LTSB) build 14393

    and mod this driver add your strings rtx 2060 and install likely works

    don't forget to enable driver mode using this command administrative dos prompt first


    bcdedit /set testsigning on

    (appears written test mode below right)

    restart computer, and install modded driver


    let us know if this worked out
     
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  2. Astyanax

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    install won't work.
     
  3. Leoplate25

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    Hi, man, I have Windows 10 LTSB 2016 and a RTX 2070, can you explain me how to add "the strings" to the driver or how to mod it? Thanks in advance!
     
  4. Astyanax

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    No he can't, because it doesn't work.
     

  5. maur0

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    test this

    1- type dos (administrative)
    bcdedit -set loadoptions DISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS

    bcdedit -set TESTSIGNING ON


    2- restart computer

    verify if work if show test mode show in desktop (if ok) install modift driver

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    3- download driver modded (decompress and install normaly using setup)
    https://www98.zippyshare.com/v/BKrVu26c/file.html
     
  6. Astyanax

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    You cannot modify the driver to work on Windows below the supported build.
     
  7. maur0

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    quadro RTX support windows server 2016 and 2019 i modify this driver for install on LTSB is same build for server 2016 build 14393
    in theory should work this way, I didn't test because I don't have an geforce rtx here
     
  8. Caesar

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    The update is FREE.
    WHY NOT UPDATE TO WINDOWS 10 build 1909?
     
  9. maur0

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    because he loses badly in games that use dx12
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  10. Caesar

    Caesar Maha Guru

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    want to grow carrots with bean seeds?

    Have you ever seen an RTX 2080 physically and have tested it on both windows 10 build (1607 and 1903) or googling around only....... ....;)
    in my opinion, when buying a computer component..... ALWAYS do check minimum requirements....
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    here's the specs of RTX 2080 : https://www.nvidia.com/content/geforce-gtx/GEFORCE_RTX_2080_User_Guide.pdf
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    well, i estimate you will not open the link, so check this:

    APRIL 2018 Update = build 1803
    https://i.**********/25T2rSP1/GEFORCE-RTX-2080-User-Guide.jpg
     

  11. maur0

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    explain this? because nvidia quadro RTX is basically same thing as geforce rtx and it supports windows 1607?


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    all gpus using same graphics processor TU102

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  12. HeavyHemi

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    You're also aware it is quite trivial to add firmware or hardware that makes the fact they may use the same die, irrelevant and drivers incompatible. Just as Quadro hardware features exist on the consumer cards but cannot be enabled via driver hack due to checks. I'm not denigrating your efforts. Merely pointing out your argument doesn't mean it 'should work' or will work.
     
  13. K.S.

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    Good Question!

    @maur0 Windows Server, version 1803 (based on Windows 10 April 2018 Update) is the second Semi-Annual Channel release of Windows Server. It is also the final version to be branched off the Server 2016 codebase. Windows Server 2016 had two Semi-Annual Channel releases. 1709 and 1803.

    Regarding Windows Server 2016 & support on Quadro RTX 8000/6000/5000/4000 products,
    USB-C support requires Windows 10 April 2018 Update (Version 1803, “Redstone 4”) or later. Driver R410 U5 (412.16)

    Finally and most importantly - the underpinning of the card's themselves the DXR hardware acceleration will not function in a pre-1803 environment. Here's a screenshot of the release notes for NVIDIA's earliest RTX Quadro Server 2016 driver.

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    Note: There's also a lot of confusion between the distinction of LTSC and SAC
    If I got this right by the mind um... LTSC 2016 / 2019 and so on
    SAC - Server 1607, 1709? and 1803 1809 etc
     
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  14. alexander1986

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    relax :p

    I'm using 1909 at the moment and its working fine, just wanted to test 1607 when I made this post, because from what I understood, it always runs games in exclusive fullscreen mode as there is no support for "fullscreen optimizations" or the new presentation mode in newer builds,


    but after a lot of testing 1709/1809/1903/1909 etc is working fine and the new presentation mode is not the same as borderless windowed, so even in those games where I can't force exclusive fullscreen mode in the newer windows builds, it doesn't have any negative effect for me atleast in terms of performance or input delay.. from what I can tell atleast!


    so 1909 is alright and that is what i'm using currently, i'm also not playing any DX12 games so can't say anything about that on 1909 vs 1607 in dx12 games, mostly playing Fortnite in dx11 and fifa 20 in dx11 mode, cheers
     
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