another is this rig good enough to build (help/opinions needed)

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by alco, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. alco

    alco Master Guru

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    gonna build a new system this is what i got so far and what i need to replace

    Scythe Ninja 2 SCNJ-2100 34,99
    Asus ENGTX480/2DI/1536MD5 469,00
    Intel® Core™ i7-875K 339,00
    Asus Maximus III Extreme 339,00
    GeIL 6GB DDR3-1333 Tri-Kit 174,90
    Western Digital SSC-D0064SC-2100 139,90
    Cooler Master Silent Pro M 700W 99,90 (already bought)

    (prices are in euro's)

    i've been away for sometime and need to update my knowledge about the new i7 (i5) cpu's and the way they work
    last system i build is my current one
    will the selected parts i have choosen work together
    any input is welcome guys
    Thx.
     
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  2. Peter Buxu

    Peter Buxu Master Guru

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    well you do have got a problem, the CPU chosen is on socket 1156, in order to use the triple channel memory configuration you need to go on socket 1366, thus x58 chipset........I would suggets Core i7 920 & ASUS Rampage II Extreme.........other items seems fine to me :D
     
  3. alco

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    holy... your right m8
    is that cpu you suggested good for overclocking also ?

    edit: i7 920 is not in stock
    wil the i7 930 also be a good choice ?
     
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  4. CoreyPL

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    Get at least 1600 MHz RAM - it will give you better headroom to OC.

    Go with Scythe Mugen 2 instead of Ninja 2 - you will have better cooling performance. Also buy additional fan for it to have push/pull config (2*Noiseblocker will be good). Fan controller would be nice to connect those 2 fans. If you plan to stay with 1 fan, then Mugen 2 still will be better than Ninja 2.

    I don't know what reviews this WD SSD has, but be sure to get one with TRIM support.
     

  5. alco

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    ssd got trim just checked Thx.
    changed the cooler also Thx for that 2

    all hardware goes in my coolermaster stacker case airflow is push/pull already intake front out to the back
     
  6. alco

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    CPUs Koelers
    Scythe Mugen 2 Rev.B SCMG-2100
    478, 754, 775, 939, 940, AM2, AM2+, 1366, 1156, AM, 26,5 dB(A), 126,2 m³/h
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    € 34,99*
    € 34,99*

    Grafische kaarten NVIDIA GeForce GTX
    Asus ENGTX480/2DI/1536MD5
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480, 1536 MB, 384 Bit, PCIe x16 v2.0
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    € 469,-*
    € 469,-*

    CPUs Socket 1366
    Intel® Core™ i7-930 Processor
    4x 2800 MHz, 4x 256 kB, 8192 kB, Bloomfield
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    € 289,-*
    € 289,-*


    Boxed Koeler (ATX Layout, PWM)
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    Solid State Disk 2,5 inch SATA
    Western Digital SSC-D0064SC-2100
    64 GB, 250 / 170 MB/s, € 2,19*
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    € 139,90*
    € 139,90*

    Moederborden Socket 1366
    Asus Rampage II Extreme
    Intel® X58, ATX, 3x PCIe x16 v2.0, SLI, CrossFire, 1366
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    € 339,-*
    € 339,-*


    GeIL 6GB DDR3-1333 Tri-Kit
    Retail, GV36GB13333C7TC

    174,90


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    this is it so far
     
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  7. Kalish colt

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    Yep, your just about ready, enjoy that g-man Rig lol
     
  8. alco

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    is it a good idea to swap the asus mobo for a GigaByte GA-X58A-UD3R ?
    must say i am very happy with the x38 board i have now from them
     
  9. Peter Buxu

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    Well it depends, Gigabyte has got SATA 3.0 & USB 3.0, that is a great win here, since it would be future proofing, on the other hand ASUS has got quiet a very good reputation, also it has got a lot of tweaks here & there that will help in overclocking if you decide so in the future, not that Gigabyte hasn't got that feature, don't take me wrong, so here the question is this, if you would like to go for future proofing, then go for the Gigabyte motherboard, no doubt about it, but if you would like some really good stuff, I think I would go for the ASUS Rampage II Extreme :D
     
  10. CoreyPL

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    I didn't mean case push/pull, but CPU cooler push/pull like here (borrowed from another forum):
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    It will give you at least 4-5 deg C lower with well ventilated case. And you will have more headroom for OC :)
    Just take size under consideration - Mugen 2 is huge, it will probably cover your memory slots if fans are attached in front-to-back order. So having memory with tall heatsinks is not an option. But if you mount your fans in bottom-top order you could have a chance :) Remember to order additional fan mounting clip, because Mugen 2 comes only with 1 fan+clip. Good thing about Mugen 2 is that you can mount fans on all 4 sides :)
    Or if you want to have top of the notch air cooling try looking at Noctua NH-D14 (also beast, but comes with 2 fans and it will also cover your memory slots) or Thermalright Venomous-X (comes without fans, so buy 1 or 2).

    And don't forget about good TIM for those coolers. They usually have not-so-good TIM applied or included with the kit. Try to look for something like Arctic Silver 5, Zalman STG1 or STG2, Noctua NT-H1. They can give you few deg more over the standard TIM. AS5 needs cure time, so it will have the best performance about 200h from applying, but after that it is still one of the best TIMs.

    Also I would still suggest at least 1600MHz memory.
     
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  11. alco

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    i skip the noctua (price 90 euro's :S)
    as for the memory any suggestions what else to take ?
    i see the cpu only supports up to 1066 mhz ?
     
  12. CoreyPL

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    Don't look at official CPU mem controller - you will OC it anyway :D And a higher clock mem with good timings will give you more headroom with OC.

    Try to look for G.Skill ECO CL7 1600MHz DDR3 series - they have nice speed and timings with 1.35v - so less heat and less stress for the CPU memory controller, which is rated for 1.65 max (voltage of older DDR3 modules). They have normal size heatsinks which will be good for even the biggest cooler, and they are very reasonable priced.
     
  13. alco

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    to bad they dont sell gskill in the shop where i'm gonna buy the stuff
    they have g.e.i.l. 1600mhz modules 3x2gb
    are the timings realy a noticeble factor with this memory
    lets say 7-7-7 or 9-9-9

    ow and thx for the help guys realy appreciated
     
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  14. CoreyPL

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    Lower timings with high clock can make for few % of memory performance. It's the most noticeable in apps that writes/reads a lot from memory: crunching, photo editing etc. For games not so much. So if the difference between CL7 or CL8 is low, then go for it, but if it costs you a lot, then its not worth it. I've suggested G.Skill because this modules are really well priced - low timing CL7 or CL8 modules for the price of competition's CL8 or CL9.

    Geils are good too. What other RAM can you chose from? If it's online store, can you give me link to it?
     
  15. alco

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    site is in dutch http://www.alternate.nl
    i had g.e.i.l. memory before and those worked realy great
    also had good results with OCZ
    on my recent system i have the dominators (1066) work great but i notice no difference to my 800 mhz modules (g.e.i.l.)
    i guess its good for benchmarks but i'm not into that
     

  16. CoreyPL

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    I have GeILs at my current system and can't say one bad word about them :) OCZ and Corsairs will also work great.

    Higher memory transfer will benefit mostly memory-heavy applications. Games practically aren't affected by it. 2-3 FPS difference on 100 FPS game is not something worth much of a premium price. But still, if you can find 1600MHz RAM with the same timings as those 1333 that you have chosen and a similar price, then go for it. It will help with a dividers when overclocking, giving you more options in setting different bus speed.
     
  17. deltatux

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    I have G.Skill and they are just the most awesome RAM I have ever owned.

    Then again, it's also 8 GB worth of RAM :p

    deltatux
     
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    Why not a 1090? You're obviously a gamer and those 1090's were made for clocking. At 4GHz they're amazingly fast.
     
  19. alco

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    is it faster then an I7 ?
     
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    in terms of gaming, close ... in terms of CPU intensive tasks ... no, but you get what you paid for.

    deltatux
     

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