AMD Zen! Will this change the future?

Discussion in 'Processors and motherboards AMD' started by sunnyp_343, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. Undesirable

    Undesirable Member Guru

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    Anyone know if the IHS is welded, or does it have TIM underneath?
     
  2. sunnyp_343

    sunnyp_343 Master Guru

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    So some more interesting benchmarks coming to see.They are as fast as Intel's 4th or 5th Generation.So they are behind 6th gen and 7th gen. Intel.But this not clear its still lab sample or full clock.But even if its Fully clock 4 ghz and its as fast as 4th Gen. Intel then with the right price tag it is cake.
     
  3. Kohlendioxidus

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    I read some time ago that it is welded. I posted in some thread before but cannot find the link anymore!

    Edit: founded -> here!
     
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  4. mohiuddin

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  5. -Tj-

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    Not bad at all.. Cant wait for final version, looks like 4.6ghz will be doable.


    Although i'll personally upgrade with zen2.. atm still no need.
     
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    Seems legit guys? :p
     
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  7. -Tj-

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    ^^^^
    trololo

    Look at that Unlocked version price ;)
     
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    I don't think that it is for being unlocked. All of them are unlocked. The premium is higher binned and allow more tweaking I guess
     
  9. jura11

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    If price will be around $500 then I will be happy, performance if will be close to 5960x then I will be switching without the question,I don't care if single performance will be poorer than 5960x if multi will be comparable

    4.6Ghz would be awesome, but I think this will be same like on i7-5xxx or 6xxx series

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
  10. chispy

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    +1 same here Jura , i'm on the same boat as you. $350US Dollar part will be the normal binned 8core 16treads cpu , the $500US Dollars will be the highest binned cpu of them all , the top dog , meaning higher clocks , low leakage cpu , cooler cpu and high overclockability. They all are unlocked yes.

    It seems performance will be more or less equal as an Intel 5960X 8core 16tread cpu and that cpu is a $1000US Dollars cpu , so doing the math they are price very well and competitive. Reviews will tell the whole story very soon ....
     

  11. Humanoid_1

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    I'm really starting to look forward to the release of these new CPUs, it feels like AMD has got an exciting thing on it's way over to us :)

    I don't honestly think I will upgrade on release, as I am very happy with the performance I have currently and need to save up some more after I buy a new Vega card.

    Still, the upgrade will save me money over my current power hungry platform once I do make that change, which will big worthwhile over time as I run my system 24/7
     
  12. jura11

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    Hi there

    Although right now I've i7-5820k with which I'm happy, but still would love to have 5960x or 6950x, but simply I'm not prepared pay £1000-£1650 for those chips,I've tested both chips on mine board few months back(both chips has been borrowed from our work)

    Hopefully Zen will deliver us good performance and hopefully price will be in range of $500 US Dollars for highest binned chip

    If those highest binned chips won't OC beyond 4.5GHz then I'm OK too, my borrowed 5960x won't OC beyond 4.6Ghz without going with crazy voltage(1.45v+)

    I still will be waiting on reviews and then I will decide if I go or not with new platform

    Yes agree reviews will tell us more and until then I will sit and wait, still waiting on Vega too what bring us

    If performance will be as they're saying, then finally we will see, price drop on Intel chips and this means my i7-5820k will worth lot less than right now, which is good in one way and bad on another

    Hope this helps

    Thanks, Jura
     
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    I'm thinking of building a new rig and had 6800K in mind but this Zen is looking interesting, plus Vega. Interesting times. :)

    Currently using a 4.5 yr-old rig: i7-2700K@4.5 / 16Gb@1600 / GTX680 2Gb / 2x 250Gb Samsung EVO / 27" Asus 1080p@60Hz
     
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    To answer the title...

    No.
     
  15. Kohlendioxidus

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    Looks better day by day.

    I'll upgrade no matter what, not that my 8350 can't coup with what I throw at it, but because the FX990 chipset that looks quite old and my mobo from time to time refuse to boot just like that (it's a 4+ years old Asus Crosshair V :banana:).

    A new GPU will follow up shortly ofcourse :nerd:!
     
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    http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...uraged-by-renduchintalas-pragmatic-influence/

    "But there will be a significant focus also on higher performance microprocessors for desktops and servers, both from higher instructions per clock but also in other key metrics. Our faith in 10 nm raising the bar for enthusiast PCs is why we see the threat presented by AMD’s Zen as being fairly manageable, with only short term disruption in 2017."

    kek
     
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    That's to appease shareholders no doubt. Intel won't have high performance desktop 10 nm CPU's until the end of 2018 with Ice Lake, only the low powered variants will get 10 nm beforehand with Cannonlake. By the end of 2018 Intel will be facing not Zen, but Zen+ with the thread of Zen+'s successor just around the corner.
     
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    I still think $500 dollars for a Amd cpu is way to much!!! Anything over $250 usd I will just get intel- I dont think they will sell any cpu's over $200 dollars ( just my opinion) They have been branded the (budget) brand You cant just jump in the high-tier segment and demand we pay you $500 dollars!

    For 500 dollars I would get myself a nice broadwell-e ,Haswell-e or whatever.
     
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    I agree completely with that statement :thumbup: , good to see competition again.
     
  20. AsiJu

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    Agree Zen seems very promising.

    Especially for someone like me looking to upgrade from 4 core/thread to 8 core/thread.
    A 8c/16t CPU for 350 bucks is a no-brainer unless there's something really "wrong" with it.
     

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