AMD Zen! Will this change the future?

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  1. sunnyp_343

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    AMD Ryzen! Will this change the future?

    Hi,
    As article says AMD Zen will be the AMD's best processor so far.Will this compete intel's latest processor?AMD says Zen ipc will perform 40% IPC improvement over previous generation processor "excavator" athlon x4 etc etc.Means 60%-70% more performance than FX 8k and 9k processors.In simple words it means 8 core Zen will compete neck to neck with Intel's 1000$ Haswell i7 5960X.Which is pretty impressive if prices are low too.So finally the competition arriving which we wishes everytime.

    AMD also keep saying that this zen processor of their is best from them in decade.It has Multithreading (2 per core) like hyper threading in Intel.
    Dint not get one thing why AMD took so much time to adopt 2 thread one core thing.We all knew that hyper threading is the main thing behind Intel processor performance.:nerd:

    Some rumors from AMD says Prices are not gonna that much cheap as we expected.:wanker:
     
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    I was gonna buy new pc from scratch this week.I have money in my pocket now i will wait for ZEN.I hope this wait will going to worth.waiting 3-4 months gonna hard since i have no pc right now only laptop with intergrated gpu.:(
     
  3. Agent-A01

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    Sorry but expecting it to perform any where close to a 5960x is wishful thinking
     
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    Its written in the link.Highest 8 core zen equal to x5960.can give you the link if u want.
     

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    Yes give the link. AMD promises lots of things, until it gets in the hands of reviewers and end consumers, it's who knows..

    And if it is good enough to challenge or beat the high end intel chips, AMD will charge a lot of money for it.
     
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    I don't expect it to be as good as Intel's, but whats a good close to? Well have to see can't wait really.
     
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    I'm expecting the price of 4c/8t zen will be similar to intel's i5 but with somewhat lower IPC than i5-6600.
     
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    they already said price wont be that much cheaper as we expected due to heavy demand and limit production till 2017 Q1..it might be equal or little less from intel's same performance segmant.
     

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    Then Zen is DOA due to lower IPC.
     
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    Yeah and AMD said bulldozer would bulldoze the competition and yet everyone called it faildozer on review day.

    Take whatever they say with a grain of salt
     
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    With all the salt I have digested lately, my blood pressure is way too high. Going to suffer a stroke before Zen is released. Will see if this waiting has really helped or hindered my bank balance.
     
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    This time is not gonna disappoint us this is sure but how much it close to intel with performance and price this is going to see.This time hype is so high like never before and promises are even bigger.
     
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    I'm afraid from AMD overhype and their prices. FX9590 was lauched at U$800 and is not all that thing, in reality it sucks in my view. If ZEN 8 cores reach i7 5960x performance it will be high price and mainstream market still keep dreaming about having more than 4 cores with decent IPC.

    If ZEn IPC is competitive then probably AMD 4cores/8threads will come to mainstream at U$200-350 to compete i5/i7 4 cores. Looks like we will only see higher core count at mainstream near next consoles generation.

    The thing is, if AMD only offer 4 cores at same price of i5/i7 4 cores, that something which will not attract people like me which already have Intel 4 cores with good IPC, i'm waiting higher cores count(6-8) come to mainstream under U$350 to move on. AMD ZEN 4 cores at mainstream will only be a good upgrade for those with FX/i3 or jurassic CPU's. Those with Sandy Bridge or newer Intel 4 cores will not see nothing to move from Intel 4 cores to AMD 4 cores.

    My only hope is ZEN reach Haswell IPC and bring some 6 cores then to mainstream to feed my upgrade needs.
     

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    You will be happy with your system. Let the early adopters deal with the growing pains that a totally new socket and architecture will bring.
     
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    If AMD can deliver 4670k performance from their Zen CPU's for $239 or under they've done something right. Too bad it took 4 more cores and DDR4 memory to do it. They'll have to undercut Intels prices to be in anyway competitive and not seen as a joke.
     
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    We hear the exact same thing with every new AMD CPU released.
     

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