AMD ZEN Engineering Sample Specs Leaked

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    New details on AMD Zen based CPUs have surfaced, the information is based on engineering samples that AMD already has been circulating. Blogger Dresdenboy AMD has confirmed the information making the ...

    AMD ZEN Engineering Sample Specs Leaked
     
  2. Corbus

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    Finally some Zen nip slips. Can't wait for more.

    Also boss, theres a typo, "AMS" instead of AMD.
     
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    AMD making real CPUs again, I never thought I'd see the day...
     
  4. Ryu5uzaku

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    I am hopeful for these. If they deliver might be my next upgrade step. Either that or Broadwell-E tho by then waiting for Skylake-X is not a bad option.......
     

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    This could be the death of AMD! If the clock really is 2.8GHz with 3.2GHz boost they will be laughed into bankruptcy court.
     
  6. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    What part of A0 engineering samples did you not get ?
     
  7. thatguy91

    thatguy91 Ancient Guru

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    The final chips will probably be clocked a little higher.
     
  8. Præses

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    I hope they perform as well as the specs look! I wouldn't mind 16 threads :D I'm due for an upgrade in the coming 6-8 months...
     
  9. Mannerheim

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    AND a clockspeed means nothing.
     
  10. fry178

    fry178 Ancient Guru

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    you know that clock frequ doesnt equal performance?
    if they can do 2x the calculations per cycle, clocks wont matter much.

    the same way HP dont tell you, how fast a car can go.
     

  11. Ryu5uzaku

    Ryu5uzaku Ancient Guru

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    Have you actually seen how a 5ghz AMD bulldozer compares to a core i7 2600k @ 4ghz.

    Even if those clocks were the final clocks which they most likely aren't tell you nothing, nada.
     
  12. MadGizmo

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    I love these CPU threads. It unites most Intel owners (independent of GPU brand) to support AMD. :)

    Me too, BTW. It's good for competition and maybe I'll buy one again in the future.
     
  13. xIcarus

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    Need I remind you how a 2.2GHz Athlon64 absolutely raped 3.2GHz Pentiums in 2003?
    Or how the 2.4GHz E6700 demolished a 2.8GHz Athlon64 FX-62 back in 2006?

    Clock speed is nothing when you compare different architectures.

    As a matter of fact, I am not surprised by AMD's move. It reeks of those same old days all over again. More work done with lower clocks. I would not be surprised if Intel retaliates in a similar fashion. Current CPUs could use a 'refresh' since we're already around the 4GHz mark again. Obviously, a far smaller fab process allows easy overclocks past 4.5GHz but do note that the thermal envelope past those frequencies tends to get out of hand fast (see FX-9590 or any processor approaching 5GHz in general).

    With DX12 and Vulkan emerging the barriers or single-threaded performance requirements in games are slowly fading away. We will finally see 8 cores being put to good use.

    If anything, that low clockspeed of Zen inspires great confidence to me.
     
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    I think everybody's fed up with the costs of building an Intel PC. :bang:

    I also quite like the APUs - want to build me a nice HTPC at some point. I'm guessing the Zen-based APUs will support hardware H265 decoding - which is a must for future-proofing any HTPC.

    I used to own an AMD64 3200+ socket 939 single core processor. After that I went Intel all the way. Really looking forward to some proper competition in the CPU market :vader:
     
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    We do know that this will have roughly Ivy Bridge IPC so it does mean something. If it doesn't clock high enough it will not be that fast. I hope that Zen+ will clocks well and that GF's 14nm process improves a lot in the near future.
     

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    Finally some real specs on Zen. Somehow it feels like the old Athlon 64 days, hope i'm right, we really need AMD to get back in the game with CPU's.
     
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    Hello. My first comment in the forum.

    I'm waiting for this cpu to upgrade my system.
    8 cores, 16 threads, 95W TDP at stock, very low power consumption at idle, probably unlocked for overclock, 40% IPC faster than the last FX series, available for around 200€ after a couple of months from the launch.
    You can use your old AM3+ cpu cooler on the AM4 socket (with inexpensive adapters in some cases). And the AM4 socket will be used by both Zen and APU cpus (and probably by the Zen+ series).
    The 95W TDP allows a good overclock margin, with no need for custom water cooling. Air cooling will be fine for a 4-4.5GHz overclock.
    There are all the premises for a success. If all these specs will be confirmed will be a terrific cpu.

    I don't think Intel can offer something similar for the same price. You would need to pay at least 1000€ to bring home a modern cpu with 16 threads, and the Intel solution would consume way more power (6900K has a 140W TDP).
     
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    I thought I saw info pointing to Zen being roughly around Haswell IPC? Then again there isn't exactly much of a difference in IPC between Ivy and Haswell...
     
  19. BLEH!

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    Looking good. SP3 is gunna be one BIIIIG socket!
     
  20. Koniakki

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    That Zen 8C/16T looks mighty sweet.

    Haswell(as rumored) IPC with 8c/16t? Isn't that CPU called 5960X? :D

    If they manage that(I wish they do), then AMD is going to be swimming in green dough!
     
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