AMD X2 3800+ Toledo Core Question...

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  1. Trance_Head

    Trance_Head Active Member

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    I Downloaded CPU-Z, ran the program, and it said that my 3800+ is a toledo core. now my question is...

    Does Anyone else have a toledo X2 3800+ and overclocked it to its max?

    I was doing some research on this and found out that there are some X2 3800+ toledos with half the cache, i have mine overclocked to 2.3 ghz and its fine and stable at stock voltage with stock cooling, Temps Idle at 36c and load 46c, and this is with a Thermaltake fan, those loud ones with 78 cfm (airflow) blowing at it with the side vent.

    and if I'm not mistaken, the toledo core is used also on the FX-60, and that one is at 2.6 ghz, can anyone tell me if i overclock my X2 3800+ to this speed, will it be like having a FX-60? just half the cache?

    Cause damn, can't find any info on this, and i don't want to buy another processor for my Socket 939 System, i was thinking about it, but would prefer overclocking and save some money.
     
  2. DSparil

    DSparil Ancient Guru

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    Athlon X2 3800+ at 2.6ghz??? I wouldn't try it, you are liable to fry your processor. There may be a few in this forum who have made that happen, but im sure they have superior cooling which would be required for such an attempt. You would have to increase the v-core a decent amount to support that speed also.

    Get better cooling, overclock to 2.4ghz and call it a day. Don't even try 2.6 on stock, unless you want to hear your CPU alarm for overheating. I wouldn't attempt that speed at all.

    :flame: <--- your cpu
     
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  3. mar-one

    mar-one Member Guru

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    you should be able to get to 2.6 on air if you dont have to raise the volts to high, alot of guys have hit 3.0 Ghz on those chips give it a try.
     
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    Are you kidding? 2.6Ghz with the 3800+ X2 should be a walk in the park even with stock cooling.
     

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    No problem with mine...
     
  6. flexmaster

    flexmaster Maha Guru

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    Damn I have a Manchester...

    Anyone else got any nice results on the Manchester?
     
  7. Spectacle

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    The manchester 3800s OC just as well, you just have to know what you are doing as with any OC.
     
  8. DSparil

    DSparil Ancient Guru

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    couldn't disagree more. the stock cooling on the X2 3800+ is the crapola low end AMD sink and fan, without the heatpipes. Whatever though, if he wants to risk his processor and shorten the life span of it by crankin the vcore and speed like that, its his perogative, not mine.
     
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    :newb: lol.. you guys amaze me sometimes.....2.6Ghz is not dangerous if you know what settings and voltages you need to apply.
     
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    I am no newcomer to overclocking. I agree its attainable! What im saying is that its danger zone for someone on stock cooling with little knowledge of overclocking. I wouldnt attempt to boost 600mhz on that cheapo stock sink... thats askin for it :bonk: but like i said, to each his own.

    :eek:rder: speed demon retards:biggun:
     
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    It's all about the voltage buddy. And to get to 2.6Ghz you will not need more than 1.425v. Apparently you ARE a newb to OCing.
     
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    haha, man youre not telling anyone anything they don't already know. but if it makes you feel superior, sure im a newb. lol

    :tool:
     
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    Go away little boy :finger:
     
  14. Trance_Head

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    People honestly think i would run my processor at 2.6 ghz with stock cooling? you gotta be kidding me! i would expect people to have more sense than that, the reason i ask its because im about to get another heatsink from zalman, the CNPS9500 i believe, in a couple of weeks and i wanted to gather some info before i make this move.

    and no, i'am not a newb to overclocking, been doing it for a couple months now, THATS WAY BETTER THAN A NEWB! i know the risk of cutting the lifespan of your processor, and making it 10x more hotter, ****! people are acting so immature!

    " he must be a newb to overclocking." SPECTACLE, especially DSPARIL, ya'll sound like some snotty bitches! grow up. you sound worse than a woman saying im prettier than her! F@#$$4% GROW UP! F#$%$$% pc snobs!

    you honestly think im that stupid to do that to my processor?! if i was a newb, i wouldn't even be asking the toledo core question at all!

    can't ask a question without being criticized? F#$$!
     
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  15. Kollunz

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    DSparil, please go flame some other forum. you've made it more then obvious that you need to learn some more about overclocking.

    I have my +3800 X2 @ 2.8ghz @ 1.5v on AIR 24/7 for three months now, with no problems at all. Before that I was at 2.6ghz with 1.4v.

    And i don't have "superior" cooling. Just a 20$ heatsink.
     

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    man, what a bunch of snobs in here. All I was doing is trying to help. Everyone thinks they know it all, and are the techie GQ's, so whatever.

    btw kollunz, i dont consider trying to help someone "flaming". I was giving my honest opinion and i stand by it regardess. It turns into a "flame" when people start criticizing and talking down to others, as certain people here have done.
     
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  17. ElementalDragon

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    ...... i'd say stick to the OC you have now, or just try a little more.....

    be glad you CAN oc your CPU. note to anyone thinking about it: if you're debating getting the Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe socket AM2 motherboard...... DON'T! can't OC for crap on this thing. i'm actually debating waiting till x-mas and getting a new motherboard, new CPU, or hell... maybe both. "Asus is overclocking friendly"...... yeah.... not the case for the M2N-SLI Deluxe....
     
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    I'm running mine on stock cooling at stock volts...and it runs at just 31c in a warm room, reaching no more than 41c under full [prime] load....so I consider the stock AMD cooler quite good.
     
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    thanks to Kollunz.... i now have a BIOS i can actually overclock on..... now i gotta probably either play with voltages, or find out what drivers are causing my computer to restart at random.
     
  20. mintbiskit

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    I have a Toledo core X2 3800

    I run mine at 2.75GHz with a Gigabyte G-Power Pro on low fan speed.

    Temp is usually around 30 degrees.

    I let my ASUS motherboard handle the voltage. CPUZ says its at 1.392v.

    I havent pushed this yet either so will probably go higher, but no need to at the moment.

    Of course i am using a multiplier on the RAM and my timings are still great for value Corsair RAM.
     

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