AMD: We’re Very Committed To Gaming So That’s Not Going To Change

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    AMD hates PC gaming by giving us shoddy gaming performance with Vega and Ryzen. Ryzen matches Ivy Bridge in gaming and gets destroyed by a heavily gimped i5 8400, whereas Vega only competes with a midrange GPU die from Nvidia.
     
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    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    You made your point, 10x now. Your AMD dislike and passion for Intel is clear, each and every single one of your posts is showing your agony with AMDs products. Infraction point added to your account, it's getting old and other readers are getting annoyed by your comments. Share some good vibes on the forums, as this is not what the forums need to become.
     
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    For vega i would say yeah maybe, but for ryzen let's be real i got myself a 5 1600x and i'm loving it really, works like a champ.
     

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    Amd loves gaming they want 4 or 5 consoles in every house
     
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    I already use my Ryzen 7 system as my main gaming rig, but they have a lot of catching up to do regarding GPUs. Although I've considered getting a Vega GPU in the past, it was for computing purposes (I suppose I could try gaming as well, although I think it'd be a downgrade from my GTX 1080). I just hope that they make some good money from the mining craze to put towards their GPU development. Even those who support Nvidia should support AMD's GPU efforts as well. After all, we've all seen what lack of competition can do in the CPU market.
     
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    Ryzen is doing very well and with new RTG leadership there is a bit of new hope for the GPU side as well.

    That's quite the feat with him having just 14 posts altogether.
     
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  8. Rich_Guy

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    Makes sense, as they havn't been able to compete with Nvidia for a long time now at gaming on the PC, just too far ahead, i said they were finished and out of it ages ago.
     
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    Yep, they fell almost a generation behind (Pascal>Vega> next NV soon). Nvidia having much deeper pockets will likely continue to be ahead in foreseeable future. I'm sure AMD committed to gaming, but that doesnt change the cold hard facts.
     
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    They want to achieve putting more money into R&D? I guess that means they might try to up the production as well. Because they need more money to do so... somebody has to pay horrible prices to help such a development.
    Of course in the future their products try to serve a more multi purpose work fields for their customers, like doing things besides gaming, like data centers or miners.

    Honestly, who ever complained about Nvidia's latest statement in regards to limiting GPU sales to small numbers per order, this is just as much of empty words.
    I'd like to see both of the companies to follow their word and do something about the current market situation.
    (Of course we know, soon Nvidia will give us something new. I'm curious to see how that turns out with miners already waiting with filled wallets.)
     

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    There wouldn't be these quite appealing custom Vegas if they would have given up. Sooner or later there will be custom Vegas in stock for the list price or less, but I just wonder how much lower power consumption you can get from Volta cards. The comparisons are going to be nasty, but if they are going to sell Vega very cheap, then I'm fine with the power.
     
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    My latest rig is an AB350N-Gaming and 1600x w/ Vega56. I've had Zero issues and pretty much soley used for VR (WindowsMR & Oculus). I'm just hoping that my B350 Motherboard will be compatible with upcoming AM4 2xxx Ryzens if I decide to up my proc.

    This rig replaced my retiring x58 i7 980Extreme. Which, really, had no issues at all... just needed a refresh.
     
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    Seeing as Nvidia basically said the same thing yesterday, it's a little funny to hear AMD be like "hey uh... me too!"

    Considering Vega64 should've been a financial failure, miners coincidentally found a need for Vega GPUs, and instead Vega has been raking in a lot of cash for AMD. Remember, AMD themselves have been making most of the Vega sales, not the AIB partners. That being said, I'm not sure it will be so much of a struggle for them to pay for R&D. Also, since AMD doesn't have their own fabs, there's only so much they can do about increasing production. As long as they stick with HBM, I suspect production is going to be pretty limited.
    Aside from limiting orders, I'm not sure what these companies can do. If there's any truth to Nvidia's claims, the retailers are the ones jacking up the price, so there isn't much of an incentive for them to do anything AMD or Nvidia want.

    I know Vegas are deemed very power hungry, but their wattage suddenly becomes a lot less un-settling once you start comparing compute performance. Vega is really only especially inefficient when it comes to games. To my recollection, Volta would still be significantly better (though the Titan V is crazy expensive).
     
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    I've converted both my gaming PCs to Ryzen over the past year and have not regretted it at all. They are definitely lagging behind in the high end GPU market, but that's only an issue at resolutions over 1080p or 120hz gaming.
     
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    Are you disappointed with your Vega64? I am asking because I see very little entries of people dissatisfied with Vega, who are also owners of this card. The vast majority negative comments about Vega, come from NV card owners.
    As for me, I am sure of one thing after these few months of using the V64LC - I certainly would not trade my V64LC for 1080Ti.
     

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    correct me if I am wrong but isnt all consoles atm AMD powered?
     
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    No not at all, im very happy with it :)

    Yes, apart from the Nintendo Switch, which is a Nvidia Tegra.
     
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    No.

    Nintendo Switch is powered by an underclocked Nvidia Tegra X SoC right from Shield TV...

    Edit: Damn" Rich_Guy got me by seconds! :D
     
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    Really I thought i read that was AMD too.
     
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