AMD Ryzen Series 3000 Product Announcement thread

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  1. Loophole35

    Loophole35 Ancient Guru

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    1800x did not sell. The 1700x did. No one in their right mind would buy a $500 1800x when the $350 1700x could do the same clocks. That is why we only got a 2700x with zen+. You are the only blind fanboy in this argument.
     
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    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    Ryzen was priced accordingly at launch because it was the only consumer chip that went up to 8 cores, not counting platforms like 2011 that were high end parts, but general consumer parts. Ryzen pushed core count and accelerated what the norm was for a consumer cpu, instead of just relying on 4c/8t as the top end general consumer chip. But notice prices went down quickly as Intel launched their new consumer chips.
     
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  3. Loophole35

    Loophole35 Ancient Guru

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    Ryzen had 3 8 core CPU's that ranged from $330 all the way to $500 for the same 8/16 core config. Only difference was frequency. And they basically dropped the 1800x if I remember correctly.

    BTW I'm not upset about the CPU prices. The 3950x may be $50 high in my opinion but it's a halo product and the first consumer grade 16core/32thread CPU.

    My issue is with the price hike going from X470 the X570 and the only real difference I'm seeing is pci4.0.
     
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    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    But again, these were the only consumer grade 8 core parts. It brought us a higher core count at what could be considered consumer grade pricing. For the same price as an i7 with 4c/8t at the time, you get double the cores and threads. 1700x and 1800x pricing more or less were the 2 you bought if you wanted to rely on XFR or push a higher clock and higher memory clock with better timings.
     
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  5. Loophole35

    Loophole35 Ancient Guru

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    Please read my edit. I got caught up in Aura's strawman.
     
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    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    Gotcha!

    I do agree with that, but what it seems like to me is AMD is trying to be a more serious platform now where Ryzen established them, now they can enter the game of being a contender. Which costs R&D, which costs money. The good thing is for the general consumer, X470 and B450 are still supported and being made.
     
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  7. Aura89

    Aura89 Ancient Guru

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    1700x was $399, thanks anyways for trying.

    And 1800x sold just fine. Yes, 1700x likely sold better, though the only available graphs we have dont really say it did all that much better

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    By your own definition the 9900k didnt sell well either because something below it, that is cheaper and easier to purchase for the masses, sold better.......news flash, thats how it always works.


    But lets look at this mythical price gouging amd is doing.....

    2017 - 16 core 3.4ghz base 4.0ghz boost $999 HEDT system requiring expensive motherboard and more expensive ram (if you want quad-channel)
    2018 - 16 core 3.5ghz base 4.4ghz boost $899 HEDT system requiring expensive motherboard and more expensive ram (if you want quad-channel)
    2019 - 16 core 3.5ghz base 4.7ghz boost $749, can use with cheap lower end chipsets from past 2 years


    Oh, yeah yeah yeah no totally i seeeeeee it now....man that price gauging! I hate paying less for more!
     
  8. D3M1G0D

    D3M1G0D Ancient Guru

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    Is AMD setting the price on the boards? Isn't that up to the board manufacturers?
     
  9. Loophole35

    Loophole35 Ancient Guru

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    That I'm not sure of but I would imagine they have a say in it.

    @Aura89 since you continue to ignore the original point I was making and instead flame, troll and post up new strawmen argument because you can't invalidate the original statement you have found your way to my very short ignore list. Hell even Undying isn't on my ignore list.
     
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    Does anyone know the cache sizes of the 3800X and the 3900X?
     

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    Astyanax Ancient Guru

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    its in the article.
     
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    Ah I missed that one, thanks. Seems it's gonna be the 3900X for me.
     
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    Man i hope so, given your trolling posts i'll finally be able to reply to your nonsense and you won't be able to reply back with even more nonsense. Thank god.
     
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    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    Yeah guys, we can stop this back and forth now.
     
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    What malware...getting some kind of malware because you run 9900k for example is next to impossible...let's get that out of way.

    I am just saying that in my book knowing what kind of sheep people are, getting 9900k or 2066 socket CPU for dirt cheap will be the best deal for me. All I need is to replace CPU with the one with more cores...pretty cheap upgrade in my book.
     

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    I'm going to be gaining 2 more cores and a silly amount of single and multi threaded performance over my 1600X with a 3700X. That's what I call pretty cheap. Even gonna use my cheap $80 mobo.
     
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  17. Borys

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    The Ryzen 3XXX will put INTEL DOWN!
    Let the fanaticism fanboys with 5FPS more in some games (really little titles) and the smart people with better performance, better price, better efficient and more security!
    The new absurd of the blue side fanboys now is that you dont need more cores to game... LOL... no dude... I wanna more with better price! Do you really learned something at this forum?!?!
    CONGRATULATIONS AMD! THE NEW KING CPU!
     
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  18. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Mate, do us all favor and stop using CAPS for entire sentences. I understand that you want to highlight something. But when you write that limited amount of text, there is really no need.
    Especially since we have actual formatting tools for underlining/bolding of text.

    Your post may be pure love, but it annoys the hell even out of me.
    I see you fixed it. Thanks, much better.
     
  19. vbetts

    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

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    Number one, caps.

    Number two, troll posts will get you no where. Please refrain from posting this in the future.

    And also anyone else, don't reply to it.
     
  20. Borys

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    Sorry dude!
    Like you... I hate the all time Intel fanboys saying the same bullshit and now with God thanks AMD has a better cpu... so, the post was highlight to troll them.
    I will try to control myself... lol. Sorry again!

    Sorry man... but where is the troll of my message? I did tell something wrong?
     
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