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AMD Ryzen Series 3000 Product Announcement thread

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. MonstroMart

    MonstroMart Master Guru

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    I don't care all that much about single core performance for now. My 1800x is not really a bottleneck for my 1070 at 2k and apparently i'll have to wait next year for a worthwhile upgrade to my 1070. I game maybe 3-6 hours a week and my backlog is so big i play mostly 3-4 years old game unless a game like Cyberpunk just got released.

    I do a lot of freelance work so i work a lot more with my PC. I work many hours a day with it and i use VMs a lot and do lot of cpu intensive tasks (lot of multitasking too). Most of the software i use are well optimized for multi-threads.

    I'll likely wait next year and grab a 3800x on sale when nVidia or AMD will finally decide to release something worthwhile upgrading to from a 1070 that is not costing me ~1 grand CAD. Anyway my computer is 2 years old and usually i don't upgrade unless it's 3 years old. Still very interested to read the reviews cause i'll buy one of these just not this year.
     
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  2. fredgml7

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    It's more than I expected, I'll just analyse the reviews and decide which one to buy. :D
     
  3. typhon6657

    typhon6657 Master Guru

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    ?.... "Ryzen making people sell i9's cheap LOL!!!" looks like it occurred to me LOL! Did you read?
     
  4. CPC_RedDawn

    CPC_RedDawn Ancient Guru

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    Go check out buildzoids video on the board.... its actually really good.
     

  5. TalentX

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    Intel is screwed just because of that alone.
     
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    schmidtbag Ancient Guru

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    I'm surprised they didn't also list the L1 Terminal Fault, just to rub it in.
     
  7. HWgeek

    HWgeek Master Guru

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    where is Fallout?
     
  8. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    At least people can say that they had interestingly named "features" built into their CPUs.
     
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  9. karma777police

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    So in nutshell.

    Zen 2 cannot beat Intel CPU in gaming at all. More or less they perform the same. AMD offers more cores for same amount of money. X570 motherboards will be more expensive than Z390/x299. It is recommended to have DDR 4 3200 for Zen 2 which adds an extra cost there as well. With Intel platform you could go with DDR4 2600, you would be fine.

    You know what...this could not be better time to buy Intel CPU for cheap...number of people will be selling their 9900k or 2066 socket CPUs for dirt cheap.
     
  10. karma777police

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    That sounds like the best deal knowing that you can later drop in better CPU.
     

  11. Loophole35

    Loophole35 Ancient Guru

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    Anyone seen the rumored X570 prices yet? AMD May be going down a road they shouldn’t.
     
  12. BetA

    BetA Ancient Guru

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    cheapest Prices i heard, are around ?140 - 180? $ (blingBling) for the cheapest X570 mobos...
    Not shure where i heared that. If i find out in a few Minutes, ill let you know ;)


    Found it, i was reading it here:
    TechPowerUP

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  13. fry178

    fry178 Maha Guru

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    @karma777police
    and instant for malware as well...
    not even talking about the fact that when intel was slightly faster no one had problems paying more,
    as soon as amd has the better (more secure as well) product, now all of a sudden someone spending
    +1000$ for a rig (cpu/mb/ram/case/psu/) gets to choose for price. ok

    as others said, they are cheap for a reason...
     
  14. MasterBash

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    I am definitely upgrading my 4770k to a 3700X/3800X. I am probably going the mATX route but I haven't seen any good mATX boards yet.
     
  15. anxious_f0x

    anxious_f0x Maha Guru

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    Exciting times ahead, this is all starting to remind me of the old AMD Athlon 64 vs Intel Pentium 4 battle from the early 2000’s.

    That battle spawned some great CPU’s from both camps. AMD eventually lost out once the core2duo’s launched but they really stirred the market up and pushed Intel to improve.
     
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  16. SniperX

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    I had the/their first 1Ghz CPU (AMD Thunderbird)

    Was pretty stoked at the time....that was my first and last AMD CPU

    Zen2 won't have me change from the current 9900K....should be good for couple years

    :D
     
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    Brings back memories of 3D Mark 2001 SE and the Nvidia Grove demo :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Loophole35

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    Yes those are the bottom of the barrel x570's. The lineup that most of us would target start around $250 in the prime pro. The cheapest ROG STRIX is $300. COmpare that to my ROG STRIX z370-I that I payed $199 for. I'm not saying the new boards aren't nice or warrant a premium over the previous gen but a lot of these boards are 50%+ more. This is ridiculous if true. Couple that with the price premium of the 12 and 16 core parts compared to the 8 core variant. AMD appears to have gone for that profit quick.

    I was thinking of swapping my 8700k for a 3900x or 3800x because they just keep finding security flaws in the CPU, but if its gonna cost me $700-800 to replace a CPU and mobo that cost me $550 when I bought it AMD can stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm sick of being Inteled and AMD gets a sniff of the lead and goes off the deep end.
     
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  19. D3M1G0D

    D3M1G0D Ancient Guru

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    Dude, these boards support PCIe 4.0. Are you seriously expecting them to cost the same as boards with PCIe 3.0? You also don't need to buy a 12 or 16 core part with them - you can opt for a 8 or 6 core (after all, 8700K is a 6-core part). And if you don't need PCIe 4.0, then you can opt for an existing board - I plan on using my current X470 board with Matisse.
     
  20. Aura89

    Aura89 Ancient Guru

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    Ryzen 1800x was released for $500

    Now they are releasing a cpu that is double the cores and higher frequency all around. You are getting more then double the performance 2 years later for not double the price. Where exactly is that a price premium?

    And again, you don't need an x570 for zen 2, most people would not benefit from it. Using that as a "reason" to say amd is going expensive only sounds like an intel fanboy trying to let the world know that AMD is not "cheap" and they are just like intel, which is entirely untrue. Again, there is no NEED to use the x570 chipset, and we have more cpu with zen 2 for our money then any cpu release before.

    Seems to me you would have rathered continue paying $1000 every other year for a new 8-core slightly higher frequency processor from intel and called it good, but hey, when you see actual improvements in CPUs, they are now.....expensive........right....
     
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