AMD Ryzen Quad-Core 2+2 versus 4+0 Core Setups Analyzed

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    So the poor gaming performance is due to another issue.

    Maybe a game engine with 'proper' optimization will bring some improvements, if not poor game performance will continue on until Ryzen 2.
     
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    Would be nice to know what is causing the bad performance in games if it isn't the CCX interconnect. AMD should get on this asap (or maybe they know it cannot be solved and are thus staying quite).
     
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    Dunno what they changed in Dota2, but atleast there was quite big uprade atleast with game update (+25% roughly).
     

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    Watched this video this morning. Most of the differences are within margin of error.
     
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    So exept in bench ryzen is not an Intel killer (with on top of that, price not so low as anounced).and with Intel mainstream with over 4 core (yay at last ) with new socket in a few.

    so it's a 50% success (i am 50% happy for them but was expecting more).
     
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    clock to clock is stupid as they haven't the same reference architecture.
    (it's like comparing a pentium D 955 VS a core 2 duo clock to clock).

    even with difference of clock they should be compared stock clock.
     
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    Since when is 7700k 4.8ghz?
     
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    Well memory bandwidth seems to increase performance quite a bit, kinda reminds me of the P4 netburst where high latency cache prefers high bandwidth memory, same for the AMD FX chips. However not sure if this is memory bandwidth or the fact the bus speed has increased from 100MHz to 123MHz increasing PCI-e throughput significantly which much like the AMD FX overclocking the HT yielded very good performance gains. Since all traffic is going through this 4x PCIe 3.0 connection 4GB/sec each direction graphics cards start taking a noise drive at this speed and have other stuff connected to it i think that extra 23MHz = 23% more data traffic will help more than the memory it's self. Good luck getting to 3600MHz memory need Samsung chips to do that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZS2XHcQdqA#t=0.151099
     
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    Since it's saying in the screens. He is referring to the speed they run the benches.
     

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    A bit tunnelvision here. Since when is Ryzen 4.0GHz? They're both clocked higher in his example.

    They're obviously both overclocked numbers. Both frequencies are the most reliable overclocks for said CPU's.
     
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    Intel may be advancing slowly and milking the market but they are still the top performer for gaming reasons.
    As I see it Intel is the choice for gaming and AMD for everything else or a mix of those.
    Those who use their PC strictly for gaming they are better off with Intel.
     
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    Did you even look at the test..?
     
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    I watched the full video this morning.
     
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    Let's talk about clock to clock when AMD and GloFo manage to get the clocks up. Until that time, no Kaby Lake owner is going to downclock their expensive CPU.

    100% successful at forcing Intel to finally consider 6-core mainstream.
     

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    Test with mem 2666...hmmm
     
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    Overclocked Intel vs a stock 4GHz Ryzen (1800?). I really hate this.
     
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    If they could overclock the Ryzen higher than this they would, that's the point.
    They are s**t overclockers.

    Anyone can OC a Kaby Lake to 4.8
     
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    I wasn´t expecting this one. I thought having all the cores in one cluster would be much better than having the cores divided between 2 clusters but i was completly wrong.
     
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    Find me that stock 4GHz Ryzen please :eek:
    I'd love to be the only person in the world with a stock 4.0GHz Ryzen chip!
     

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