AMD Ryzen Die Shot and Caches Shown at ISSCC

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    As the launch of AMD Ryzen is getting closer, more and more details start to appear. We know most specs, clock-frequencies and even pricing. HoweverÂ*AMD shared some more details about the microarchit...

    AMD Ryzen Die Shot and Caches Shown at ICC
     
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    Kaarme Ancient Guru

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    Now all we need is a Guru3D review with no stones left unturned.
     
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    mohiuddin Master Guru

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    Yes... Hilbert. Turn every stone please. :p
     
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    Couple more weeks and then we have answers
     

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    "Design for reuse", they will quit the lv3 cache on APUs xD but if they performs well :3
     
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    nz3777 Ancient Guru

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    So what do you guys make of those die-shots? I have no idea what I am looking at but I know some people can tell alot just looking at pics! Is this going to be a good cpu and mostly will it compete with intel in gaming benchmarks?
     
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    Well keep in mind there are millions (maybe billions) of transistors, so even the best electrical engineers can't REALLY tell what they're looking at.

    But what I can tell personally is it looks very "messy" compared to dies of other CPUs. Most dies seem to have very clean and consistent patterns, where they almost look like farm fields from above. But this seems to have a lot of unevenly sized chunks that are scattered all over the place, except for the L3 cache - that seems pretty clean. The messy-ness doesn't mean that's a bad thing though. The components could be organized in a very specific and deliberate way that maximizes efficiency.
     
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    I guess you have a point lol? I cannot tell anything looking at die shots from either camp and I even tried to keep-up with people talking about it ( clueless) haha. I guess soon enough we will know if Ryzen is the real deal or not.
     
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    __hollywood|meo Ancient Guru

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    the FPU & scheduler are enormous. also that cache layout is sexy as **** for some reason...
     
  10. Lane

    Lane Ancient Guru

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    because the die shot is not made for be clear. this was part of the material shown to ISCC conference concerning the metal layers, production on the die.. They have keep everything in dark and clear blue and only highlight some parts for show them during the presentation...

    They dont wanted shown so early a complete picture of the die.. It have been posted last sunday on beyond3D ( thanks Hoom )

    It was at same presentation they posted this, should remember it it was posted by HH allready:

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    http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/column/kaigai/1043349.html
     
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