AMD Ryzen 9 5900X would have 12 cores and Yes ZEN3 would be Series 5000

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  1. MonstroMart

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    I don't think it will. It's a 3+ years old MB. I mean the fact it supports 3 generations of CPUs is already good imo. My plan was to buy a 3900x at a reduced price when zen 3 was released but my system going unstable this summer sealed the deal. The temp of the CPU and GPU were perfectly fine and the system has been perfectly stable since summer ended so pretty sure it's the vram since i changed the PSU this summer and this did not help. Maybe after 3 years the thermal pads on the vram are not doing their job as well as the previous 3 summers my app is getting very hot so there was probably not much room for higher temp to begin with. Could try to remove the vram heatsink and apply thermal paste next summer but well after 3 years of good service i decided to just buy a b550 and upgrade to the new Ryzen 3.
     
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    Wish they stopped milking and increased the x700/x800 to 16c already.
     
  3. H83

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    You guys made some very valid points and now created serious doubt on my feeble mind...

    If i spend money on the next Ryzen, i´ll blame you guys!:p
     
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    Troll somewhere else.
     

  5. Reddoguk

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    Well according to CPU-Z a 3700X is only 6% faster than my 2600X in single thread so yea the 15% i mentioned might of been a bit off.

    Most likely to be 5-10% better IPC over 3700X and 15% over 2700X. Still i think 10% would push them into a small lead and like others mentioned an 8 core 1 ccx chip might be very good gaming cpu.
     
  6. theoneofgod

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    Yep me too. Single CCX LLEAS.
    Making the x700 8 core and x800 10 core. Seems more likely but rather they just scrap the x700 make the x600 8 core.
     
  7. Goiur

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    10 core... in case 8 vs 10 cores... i would bet 8 core will be faster for gaming than "5 5" or "6 4" or whatever they come up with.

    Glad i could help to empty your pockets.
     
  8. Kool64

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    I still camp my boards bios site on my 3700x an X570. Been doing that since my 1600x and x370.
     
  9. MonstroMart

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    Overheat? Can't say for Ryzen 2 but my 1800x runs very cool.
     
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    I'm hoping they add 2 cores across the board, intel already doing core count parity soo...
     

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    The 10 and 12 cores are interesting for long term use, I have had my Haswell for 5 years, still going strong in 1080p.

    But is there a list of games that actually benefits performance wise over 8c/16t?

    If the limit is 10 core per CCD, then that would seal the deal for me. No need to even think about it.
     
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    Am on X570 mobo, put 2700X in to save cost thinking to jump a generation over Zen 2, so will go with this new one hope 5700, or 5800 is a good upgrade. i expect to have to change to a new socket after this one however if they then go to DDR5. Hopefully Ryzen 5800 and RTX3070 for not much more than a 3080.
     
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    Not going to upgrade anything until it becomes a case of "horses for courses" so to speak..
    If my gaming performance doesn't satisfy me with FPS @ 1080P, then I'll consider upgrading from 2600X
    Of course a 'mild' OC on it will give a little more room in that situation anyway.
     
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    If you have lived through DDR2, DDR3, and DDR4 you will know the first DIM's usually are not much faster in real world usage. Typically the prior gen has better latencies but less frequency so it takes a bit to overcome the prior generation ram by any significant amount especially if you compare to high specked prior gen modules like say Samsung B. die etc. I do expect DDR5 to be really great in like three years once we have a couple generations of ram improvements to push the frequencies up.
     
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    I think what you mean is that it's far better than Intel's generation naming, period. i7 10700K. i5 10670. (i know those might not be actual Intel CPU models, but basically, yeah). But I did see their mobile platform naming and MY GOD it's like they thought "What's the best way to name these? I KNOW! Let's just keep our internal model number spec rather than come up with a new format" I mean wtf? what were those, something like i7 1075G7 or some BS like that?

    But I feel like AMD's naming is getting kind of odd, too. Ryzen 1xxx = Zen. Ryzen 2xxx = Zen+. Ryzen 3xxx = Zen 2. Ryzen 5xxx = Zen 3. At this rate, and if they keep up with the naming up to Intel's standards, we'll be seeing Ryzen 10xxx CPU's and be on like Zen 5 architecture.
     

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    He’s talking about 10 core 20 thread not 5 core 10 thread although the Ryzen 3 would get a nice bump going 5/10.....
     
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    Thats what im saying 8(16) vs 10(20), 1 ccx with 8 cores vs 2 ccx 10 cores total.
     
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    10-core, even if happen, would be where the one CCD is heavily damaged/defected with only 2 working cores. Not the best choice.
    It's still very possible though. Since one defected 4-core CCX could have been used in 2x2 4-core variation. But with entire CCD shrunk to 2 core barely you can do, but to add it to another 8.
     
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    Having 3700x myself I'm definitely not upgrading until DDR5 are available and cheap, which will definitely require a few more years. We'll see what's the offering then. But for people having first gen or even second, I can see this as possibly a nice upgrade, especially if they can reuse the mobo they have.
     
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    ive been waiting for zen3 because I’m still on r5 1600x, waiting for rdna2 because I’m still on vega64.... it’s a vicious cycle but I love it. I’m on b450 btw and I knew from the beginning that wether amd or the community would do it with modded bios, zen3 will be on older chipsets...
     
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