AMD Ryzen 9 3950X beats Intel i9-10980XE in 3DMark Firestrike by almost 25%

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    If this is true, then this is massive news. Hopefully similar in other benchmarks. All we need now is the chip...
     
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    Really impressive.
     
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    It seems another type of GPU was used... 2080 ti vs. 2070??? No surprise Ryzen is faster then...
     
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    No wonder Intel dropped prices by half, they knew.
     
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    I'll wait for some independent reviews by sources I trust before jumping to conclusions. These sorts of leaks always seem fishy to me.
     
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    You know, I agree but... any company that can cut a products price by half and still make a profit is raising questions about their practices.
     
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    Wait... Intel with GTX 2070 and slower RAM vs AMD with 2080Ti and faster RAM in GPU heavy test... And how is this comparison relevant ??
     
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    Many of those links broken, a comparison with different graphic cards etc. Unreliable.
     
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    How about this (my 3700X vs 3950X):
    https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/20721349/fs/19987389

    32% higher Physics score ... I'm not impressed.

    What I am impressed though is the Maximum turbo core clock on 3950X, which is 4.7 Ghz !!! This will be a beast in gaming and most likely beat 9900K, KF or whatever anything else and become the top dog gaming GPU (of all CPUs in existence, not even 5.1 Ghz will be enough on Intel side to beat that)

    p.s.
    Intel Result has already been taken down, I expect the AMD one to disappear quickly as well.

    Saved details from it:

    3DMark Score
    29663
    Graphics Score
    33698
    Physics Score
    32082
    Combined Score
    14750
    Graphics Test 1
    164.71 fps
    Graphics Test 2
    131.94 fps
    Physics Test
    101.85 fps
    Combined Test
    68.61 fps

    Processor
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor
    Reported stock core clock
    3,500 MHz
    Maximum turbo core clock
    4,715 MHz
    Physical / logical processors
    1 / 32
    # of cores
    16
    Memory
    16,384 MB
    Module 1
    8,192 MB Kingston DDR4 @ 3,194 MHz
    Module 2
    8,192 MB Kingston DDR4 @ 3,194 MHz

    ... and that's quite low speed RAM.
    I'm guessing it can be quite faster with tuned 3733 MT/s !
     
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    ergo compared is the CPU tied Physics score.
     
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    My old 7980xe overclocked is getting 38k in 3dmark physics. Memory does impact the score bigtime.

    10980xe will go over 40k easy when overclocking cpu and memory. Looks like they nerfed 10980xe to get 25k points LOL
     
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    Not all benchmarks are about overclocking. Most of the people do not overclock.

    I think the reason of 2666Mhz ddr and 3200 for AMD is because those are the highest officially supported as today?

    Everything above i think is still considered overclock.
     
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    The Intel score seems pretty low. It ought to be at least 30k in a reasonable system, I imagine. If compared to the ridiculously overprised 7980xe (the price of that CPU alone would allow building the entire 16 core Ryzen PC with good components), it should get in the same neighbourhood, surely. Talking about non-OC.
     
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    If you study economics you'll learn a company's sole objective is profit. You'll learn also that any company will try to have some kind of advantage and will use it to crush/buy any rivals in pursuit of monopoly. By that time, they can charge anything they want as long their production is sold. So, in recap, no questions raised anywhere, as AMD would/will do the same given the opportunity. Competition and choice is healthy for the market, monopoly is not.
     

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    Edit: Sorry, I was looking at the screenshots, not the text in the article :) That is impressive...
     
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    It's 2933 "official"

    10 series cpu's with the new motherboards support 4266 xmp :)

    Works with X299 apex too.

    https://www.asus.com/no/Motherboards/ROG-RAMPAGE-VI-EXTREME-OMEGA/
     
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    Physics score is only 9.4% higher than my 3900X ... that's not great.. I presume they have not optimized that in any way. It's a pity the results don't give any details about memory settings which are kind of important to compare you would think...

    https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/20721349/fs/20441742
     
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    Fire Strike tops out at 16 threads. It's an old bench by now from when quad cores were still king...
    That 9.4% is only from clock speeds/better binning of the CCDs, 3950X able to sustain clocks better than 3900X, and probably the fact that the 16 threads get allocated to 16 real cores instead of 12 and leftovers...

    Let's see Time Spy Extreme... the CPU bench in that one goes up to 256 threads, so it will be a while until it's maxed out.
     

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