When is Zen 3 coming? Are we getting Zen 2+ next year or moving straight to Zen 3? I can't wait to see what comes next. Navi to me looks like their attempt to Ryzen their GPU lineup. This is basically their first gen Ryzen on the GPU front. I expect we'll be getting yearly improvements to IPC and memory speed and overall architectures going forward. This was a step in the right direction, but overall massively disappointing, much like first gen Ryzen. I don't expect AMD will have anything to truly compete with the RTX lineup until 2020 or 2021 when they move on the RDNA 2.