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AMD Ryzen 9 3950X: 16 cores and 32 threads - A Gaming CPU to be released in September

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Petr V Member Guru

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    AMD is going better and better.
     
  3. FrostNixon

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    While a great CPU, $750 for a gaming CPU is mental, hell even $500 is too much for a gaming CPU. 3800x is clearly the gaming CPU, everything else is enthusiast, especially when we know that the 9900k will perform better in games at the same price.
     
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    the 9900k is around 500 too.
    The 3800x is a bit less, is around 400 right? and looks like it will perform on par with a 9900k.

    I agree that 750 is an enthusiast segment.
     

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    Hey Boss...does the 3950X come with a nice cooler like the wraith? ....

    I think it's a shame that intel/any company would sell a processor without a nice cooler.
     
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    Regular gamers should get 3700X. Rich/competitive should go for 3800X. Above that 3900X/3950X are for people who have reason to get it. And gaming itself is not that reason. Games themselves will not benefit from 12C/24T+. And even 8C/16T allows for great multitasking without need to worry on what was left running in background.
     
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    Sure 3700X is good enogh for most of the gamers and its for good price.
    I like dat 12core 3900X for same price as 9900k.
     
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    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Yes the bundles for the X models are all the same.
     
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    Come on airbud, tell us again how 9900k is better. :D
     
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    I'm still holding out hope for a anniversary edition 3850x high clock speed binned chip. Probably won't happen but since they just did it for the 5700x I know they have thought about doing this for Ryzen.
     

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    Getting 12 and especially 16 cores for gaming is pretty much waste of money. It's a good option for people who game and do other demanding stuff tho.

    I have no doubt in my mind that 9900K/9900KS will perform better in games than any of these when those games become CPU bound, even 8700K/8086K will.

    I have tested 2700X @ 4.2 and 9900K at 5 side by side. The 9900K was faster in all games when CPU bound (all high refresh gamers will be, when chasing max fps). We're talking 20-50% depending on game. Very noticable difference. This is especially true when using a high-end GPU. I used 1080 Ti at 2.1 GHz at 1440p 165 Hz Gsync.

    For GPU bound gaming at high resolutions CPU does not matter much anyway since it's all GPU. This is why 99.99% of competitive / serious gamers still go with Intel. They are CPU bound and needs as high fps as possible. I doubt Zen 2 will change this. Looking forward to see high fps / CPU bound gaming tests tho. I'm looking forward to see single thread perf and all-core overclock too.
     
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    I agree with prior history that is what I have been seeing as well but I do not want to apply that to this generation without testing. I think the gap is going to be so close that it doesn't matter anymore. If AMD is believed they are virtually dead on with Intel's 9900K in CS:GO fps.
     
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    Gaming CPU maybe for someone who has too much money.
     
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    Btw boss, do you plan on doing a review of the Wraith cooler to see how well it stacks against the budget options?
     
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    I give up....:p

    This is history right here....Go AMD!

    Much like Sandy Bridge in 2019!....Great times indeed.....
     
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    AMD sure is pandering hard to the gaming market... Even 12c/24t is overkill.

    Until 4c/8t isn't enough to play games at 60FPS, I'm not upgrading. That being said, I do expect that to change by the time next-gen consoles come out.
     
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    Yeah, I don't believe AMD's own numbers. Just like I don't believe Intel's or Nvidia's own slides. That's why I'm looking forward to see proper testing and hopefully someone will do non-GPU bound testing ASAP.

    I would be very surprised if these CPU's deliver 8700K/8060K/9700K/9900K gaming perf when CPU bound. But I do like competition.


    Now I just want AMD to get competitive in the GPU market again... I don't see the two upcoming Navi cards change this, especially considering Nvidia is lowering prices on current 2000 series and releasing "Super" versions. Beating RTX 2070 slightly will mean that Nvidia has many cards that are faster still. 1080 Ti, RTX 2070 "Super", RTX 2080, RTX 2080 "Super", 2080 Ti and some TItans

    My 1080 Ti from early 2017 still beats everything AMD has to offer in gaming. This needs to change. They are too far behind.
     
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    4c/8t are not enough even today. There are quite a few games that can use more than that.
     
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    I agree, today is best to be looking for 6+ core, ideally 8 core for gaming, even the new consoles will be 8 cores, so matches well for the porting we might see in the near future.
     
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    For 60FPS, it is in fact enough, at least if you don't play youtube videos in the background or do streaming (I do neither). I have yet to encounter a game that struggles to keep up that framerate. 6c/12t is necessary if you want to reliably go higher than that.

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    Just because a game can use more cores, doesn't mean you need more cores for a good experience.
     
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