AMD Ryzen 7 have a Temperature 20 Degree C Reporting Offset

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Ryu5uzaku Ancient Guru

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    Ah good to know. Haven't gotten my 1800x yet but good to know it runs as cool as 1700 or cooler considering it needs lower voltages according to many places to run similar clocks.
     
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    If the fan control is based off the tCTL reading, how would it make for a consistent fan policy? The 1700 at 38C will be running much lower than the 1700X or 1800X at 58C, which would make the fan policy incosistent.

    Programs taking this into consideration isn't exactly a great idea, especially if knew models come out and the policy changes. In this situation, they may under-report the temperature, run the fan slow, and have the CPU's run hot. This also begs the question, why is there incosistencies with the temperature reporting between the 1700 and 1700X/1800X such that a 20C offset is required to ensure 'consistent fan policy'?.
     
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    You can see 2 different cpu temp readings in Aida64. Cpu and cpu package?
     

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    Happens with any CPU in Aida64...
     
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    'To keep a "consistent fan policy," AMD is forcing 20C offset'

    Should read 'To keep CPU from "cooking", AMD is forcing 20C offset'
    "Consistent fan policy" sounds like BS to me...Sounds more like AMD's ramshackle fix for a hot CPU...
     
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    Finally it's getting reported, 50c idle temps we're pretty alarming but no one noticed...
     
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    This makes no sense, because the point of any sensor is to give you an accurate reading--why undermine that by setting an offset.

    The heatspreaders have already been demonstrated to be pretty efficient from the few people that choose to delid them, so why undermine that by making the system fans run all that much louder.

    Goddamn AMD, stop sabotaging your own products. It was bad enough the 1700X didn't come with a stock cooler, and changing the mounting holes so people had to fish for what little compatible coolers are available, but now you're saying my system is going to run louder than it needs to because you were worried about it overheating, despite having a monster of a cooler already on it.
     
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    Agent-A01 Ancient Guru

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    Probably do that because they have yet to make an accurate temp sensor on their CPUs
     
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    Somehow it's a little odd, I can't really make sense off of that.

    Are they introducing some "steps" like 40°C, 50°, 60°C and so on, and then adding theoretical 20°C on top of it so it pushes you to the next higher level and then keeps the fan running at same RPM until you drop below the second level below the one the fan's running at? So they can OC with that fancy self regulating OC to get higher again?

    Could somebody please explain to me what's the idea behind this? And doesn't it interfere with their auto OC feature?
     

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    PrMinisterGR Ancient Guru

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    Couldn't that offset be hidden? Meaning that the bios/sensor reports the correct one and the fan profile behaves as if it was +20C? And why doesn't the 1700 need it?
     
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    In fact it is a way to scare the user and avoid multiple RMAs due to abusive overclocking at high temperatures :)
     
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    Well that's just insulting. And stupid. So to lower the number of RMAs they're going to make it look like their product is overheating... which will increase the number of RMA attempts. Brilliant.:3eyes:
    What's next AMD? Light yourself on fire and claim that it's a amazing new way to keep cool?
     
  14. KissSh0t

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    It's kind of like FX right?

    Here is my chip, I was always confused as to which one is the real temperature xD

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  15. fantaskarsef

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    hehe while the idea is a funny one it still doesn't make much sense to me to include an auto OC feature depending on temperature, and then messing with temp readings. Maybe the FLX or what it's called does work with real temps, but why report higher temps than there are? I honestly can't make much sense out of it, your explaination is the most sensible I can come up with :D
     

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