AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Priced $450; Other CPUs to follow in Mid-April

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  1. AlmondMan

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    People sitting on a Ryzen 1600 might want to look in to it with a BIOS upgrade for instance. That seems way cheaper than buying a whole new CPU, motherboard, possibly RAM because you get confused about DDR4/5.

    People are like "OH THIS IS SO EXPENSIVE THE INTEL STUFF IS WAY BETTER NOW!" but also forgetting that we can put these chips in to almost any AMD AM4 motherboard purchased in the last 5 years.
     
  2. Undying

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    I agree on that. The longevity of am4 is great you can just pop in one of these in your b450 and your done but thats the only reason one should buy one of these "new" ryzen chips.
    Buying a new board/cpu intel all the way as right now.
     
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    Some games are more sensitive to cache than others, it would seem.

    Not sure I fully agree, as the Intel devices seem a bit more powerhungry and the performance boost from going to DDR5 is clearly not worth it at the moment, price-wise.
    Intel has the performance crown, but it's not without some amount of sacrifice to get it. It's also.. do you want to go for a 12700k with a DDR4 board and only Z690 highend boards are available? And be stuck with DDR4 while time passes and DDR5 becomes actually performant for the price? Or do you want to spend loads on DDR5 now and get very little benefit from DDR4 and have the option to upgrade your DDR5 later down the line when your now poorly performing very expensive RAM has lost any resale value?

    Personally it'd be the DDR4 options that makes the most sense to me - either an AMD 5x00 or a 12x00k will be plenty powerful for the next 4 years no doubt. Considering we're still seeing the i7 2600k do well in benchmarks. So you can just sit back with either one and upgrade when the market is favorable. Personally I would love to swap to a 5800X3D - maybe I can swing my current 5800X to make the economics of that swap less terrible- I'll wait for reviews and probably wait for another long long time before thinking about upgrading because having just recently become a dad, the time I have to spend on videogames has been drastically cut down.. mostly it's just getting maybe an hour's worth on my Quest 2 while everyone else is napping.
     
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    @AlmondMan my main plan is get the 6 or 8 core now and in 4-5 years I will measure if I need an update for my needs I will examine the 2nd hand market maybe jumping to a 5950 or 5900 would be an awesome supper cheap update if that makes sense! Or maybe my 2022 bet in 2026-27 will be a bust and go for a new mb ram CPU again , time will tell. I imagine if there was a Sandy ridge 8 core say i9 2900k it would have been a very decent very cheap update that can cope even today for ultra cheap. Let's see if the 5xxx can do that!
     
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  5. bobnewels

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    They are all good CPU's for PC gaming at any resolution really. I may grab a couple 5800X3d and sell my last 12900K 5400Mhz all core.Although there will not be any performance difference,I am just a nut buying stuff I do not need.It is a hobby for fun.

    Some of the CPU I have used in PC Gaming rig in the last couple years.For some reason I do not have a video of the 5600X CPU I had,oh well.

    Ryzen 2600X 4350Mhz run with Cinbench ,AIDA64 Memory test 3466Mhz May 2019


    3600X Hitting 4500Mhz Cinebench 20 july 2019
    3600X Hitting 4500Mhz Cinebench 20 - YouTube

    The Golf Club 2020 AMD 3600XT PBO Boost 4700Mhz Sept 2020


    Bioshock Remastered Amd 3800X Boost 4650 Mhz jan 2020


    RTX 3080 3800XT The Dark Pictures Anthology - Little Hope nov 2020


    Shadow of the Tomb Raider AMD 5800X 5150Mhz dec 2020


    Cyberpunk 2077 4K HDR Intel 10850K Boost 5200Mhz dec 2020
    [https://youtu.be/FqZ47iEusIg

    Shadow of the Tomb Raider 12900K 5600Mhz Crazy Voltage nov 2021
    https://youtu.be/sZjvfqYTzlc
     
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  6. Venix

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    @bobnewels hehe I know they all do well and I respect the hobby ! I know that every CPU will cover me really because my Ryzen 1600 already did and so far from the games I play I did not had any issue getting 60 fps or higher I do not even need the update (partly cause I deny to pay the current GPU prices ;p) . I guess I am stuck from my first year in uni where I will eat few extra times instant noodles to save up enough and will keep my hardware till I feel I need the update ! My last 3 CPUs phenom 2 720 / i7 3770k / Ryzen 1600 and the Ryzen was an accident due not able to find a mb to keep my 3770k going I told the story few times I will not write it again :p. While I am enthusiast and love learning how the technology works see how they perform and even if I do not have to get noodles anymore to fund my hobby ... I am still so dead set to the vfm segment I do not think I can escape that mindset ! I think my father is the one to blame my first pc was brought by my father when I was 12 a p3 667 qdi advance 10 voodoo 3 2000 ! His words was that he will never give a penny more for it if I want updates or fixes are up to me. My first update was a bit over a year later I had managed to save enough to buy a GeForce 2 ti ! I will not forget the rush I got when I had the card on my hands !
     
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    I went from a 2700X to the 5800X (on X470) in December 2021 for £320. I still think I got a good deal!

    If I hadn't, I'd still be waiting for the (likely to be) wallet rapingly expensive upgrade to Zen4.
     
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    Why use a 5900x to game at 1080p.... unless there is no gain above that resolution
     
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    Im doing exactly the opposite . Keept my 2700x and saving up for a zen4. We'll see which one was better decision.
     
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    Zen4 will be faster, no doubt, but I wanted a cheap boost in frame rates and got exactly that without having to upgrade any other components. Plus, I can now happily save up for a new build in 3-4 years time and jump on Zen4+/5 (or whatever Intel has on the go)!
     

  11. cucaulay malkin

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    Its easy,hes playing on a 5800x that is already excellent and will remain so for the foreseeable future while you splurged on a x570 to never actually reap its great benefis.
    Get a 5700x,or 5800x now.they can be found near 300eur.
     
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    This is exactly all they have done.

    the chiplets were already designed to take it.
     
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    I also got a 5800x last summer. Now that you can get the 5800x for $299 at micro center paying $450 for the 5800X3D is going to be very rare. I really don't think AMD wants to sell very many of these likely due to margins.
     
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    The 5800X3d is not supposed to sell like crazy but to gauge the interest of consumers on this type of CPU.

    If it sells well and people like it, then AMD will produce more of this type in the future, if not, then no point on creating more of them.
     
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    Being that 5600 will be able to go on older motherboards it seems there is probably a decent audience for those looking for an upgrade without adding motherboard to the cost. I agree this would have been nice sooner.
     
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  16. Jayp

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    Yea the 5800X3D isn't about a strong value proposition or even the attempt to sell to current 5000 series owners. It is about showing that AMD is still moving forward and show casing technology that is to be more prevalent in the time to come. Going out with a bang for AM4 gaming performance.
     
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    I think that is going to be the only interesting benchmark. 5800X with a maximum overclock VS 5800X3D at its stock frequency.
     
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    same cache
     
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    Oh wait I was looking at the 5800 not 5800X. Nevermind.
     
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    I was expecting this price but hoping otherwise. Looks like the 5800X will be the sweet spot upgrade to my 3700X eventually
     

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