1st) Turbo of such CPU is likely going to be 5GHz already or more therefore actual overclock to 5.3GHz will be 6% or less 2nd) intel does not even show it on their website 3rd) intel's main advantage since Zen was manufacturing process 4th) 3800X is not best of value chip in new AMD's lineup. Performance per $ is with 3700X. 5th) Expecting that they are going to deliver all core clock of 5GHz at reasonable TDP is unrealistic and one can as well take 9900K and push TDP there = = = = 9900T (35W) - Base clock 2.1GHz => its 25W TDP-down clock is 1.6GHz 9880H (45W) - Base clock 2.3GHz 9980HK (45W binned) - Base clock 2.4GHz 9900 (65W) - Base clock 3.1GHz 9900K (95W) - Base clock 3.6GHz 9900KF (95W disabled iGPU) - Base clock 3.6GHz All except 1st two can boost to 5GHz for shorter or longer amount of time. But staying there comes at price once all cores are to operate there. = = = = Thinking about 15% discount from intel before AMD's chips are even out? Rumors? At best that expected $425 MSRP mark will belong to something like 9900/9900T which currently have MSRP of around $440. And 9900K/KF may drop to $475 to make space for $500 9900KS. And it would be just price adjustment within their lineup and not defensive reaction to Zen2.