1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X & Ryzen 9 3900X review with benchmarks leaks out

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Rich_Guy, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. anticupidon

    anticupidon Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    3,972
    Likes Received:
    746
    GPU:
    integrated
    @beedoo your post gave me confirmation that people who reason and apply logic exists, but can have fun with their hobby.
    buy what you like / can afford
    The simplest way of buying hardware.
     
    Aura89 likes this.
  2. BReal85

    BReal85 Master Guru

    Messages:
    325
    Likes Received:
    100
    GPU:
    ASUS 270X DC2 TOP
    Yeah, that's why it beats Intel in AC. :D Troll.

    Have you realized that AMD CPUs are being sold about 2/3-1/3 or more compared to Intel? It's a shame how pathetic some blue-eyed guys are. Don't you realize that you are considered a clown here?
     
    Aura89 likes this.
  3. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    9,739
    Likes Received:
    2,199
    GPU:
    5700XT+AW@240Hz
    Good job finding comparison to 1st generation Zen (1700X). Now, try to finally get to topic at hand... Zen2 !!!
    = = = =
    To topic. I am constantly checking my board's details for final or at least good BIOS update.
    ASRock X470 Taichi it is. And while they removed newest BIOS and left only 3.40 there, their CPU support list 3600X/3700X/3800X. But there is no 3900X/3950X in there.
    That's rather unpleasant. I hope that CPUs have record in given BIOSes, because there is no power delivery issue with given board that would prevent those chips from working.
    I had no problem to pull 220W with 2700X in OC tests w/o temperature being high on VRMs or any other hint of issues.

    Then those missing chips have 105W TDP anyway, upon unlocking, they'll eat maybe same 140W max as 2700X since that's controlled by BIOS limits or overridden by RM.
     
    Aura89 likes this.
  4. barbacot

    barbacot Member Guru

    Messages:
    181
    Likes Received:
    63
    GPU:
    RTX 2080Ti MSI
    You're right but on the other hand what do you expect when even authors here shows the same fanboism with some "jokes"...of course that everybody jumps in one boat or another and write their "jokes" following his example: https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/i...prices-by-15-to-fight-off-amd-ryzen-3000.html

    Something like this:
    seems like the work of some participant here and not an independent reviewer...
     

  5. fOrTy_7

    fOrTy_7 Master Guru

    Messages:
    344
    Likes Received:
    36
    GPU:
    N/A
    Another controlled leak just before release, how convenient.
    This is as unintentional as Intel's internal memo leak. :D

    This whole embargo on reviews to release date is just retarded.
    I mean, some wait time is ok to give every review site a fair amount of time to prepare their article,
    but waiting three to six weeks if fucking retarded.


    Anyway, I will wait for reviews from respected blogs, not some random website from the net.
     
  6. fOrTy_7

    fOrTy_7 Master Guru

    Messages:
    344
    Likes Received:
    36
    GPU:
    N/A
    Low resolution is used to show how effective IPC and new architecture are in games.
    At higher resolution you are bounded by GPU and it is harder to measure the difference.

    Skylike i7 6xxx is not even on the gaming charts. :D
     
  7. Mesab67

    Mesab67 Member Guru

    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    43
    GPU:
    GTX 1080
    Hmmm. Indeed, and now, exactly as I expected from you. We don't need to look look back too far to see a glaring and destructive pattern with you replies. It's quite revealing. Behaviour like this tends to belong to a rather low age group - shall we say, kindergarten, and has no place in a reputable site like this. Oh yes, of course the jury's still out regarding shill work. Now for some woodwork treatment, shill's don't work alone ;)
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2019
  8. moo100times

    moo100times Member Guru

    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    43
    GPU:
    295x2 @ stock
    All the negativity makes me feel AMD is right on the money with this release. Cannot wait for 3900x, though may have to stretch to get the 3950x...so many cores...!!!
     
    carnivore, Aura89 and Mesab67 like this.
  9. DW75

    DW75 Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,143
    Likes Received:
    556
    GPU:
    ROG GTX1080 Ti OC
    That is my plan as well. I want an R9 3900X. That is where the most "bang for the buck" is for current R7 2700X owners who want to upgrade.
     
    Aura89 likes this.
  10. thesebastian

    thesebastian Active Member

    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    11
    GPU:
    GTX1080 + H90

    But 3900X Is not even in the X570 Taichi, so I don't think this will be a problem.
    https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570 Taichi/#CPU

    Personally, I've just bought ASRock B450 ITX. I have ITX case and I need TOSLINK. So this is my best option below 140€. (I'll pair it with 3700X though).

    Question: If this motherboard arrives with BIOS v3.10 (2019/3/29 - Agesa 0.0.7.2) should I be able to boot 3700X for a BIOS update? Or I should better borrow one old open box ryzen from Amazon Warehouse just for the bios upgrade?
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2019

  11. tty8k

    tty8k Active Member

    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    6
    GPU:
    Ati 5850
    Basically this is making my 8mo old 9600k a best buy. Paid 250 for it, runs rock stable at 4.8, wipes the floor with amd new releases (gaming).
    Glad I didn't wait for this.
    It would be different if I had to use it mainly for 3d render or encoding, but I'm not.
     
  12. Alessio1989

    Alessio1989 Maha Guru

    Messages:
    1,383
    Likes Received:
    232
    GPU:
    .
    Lower resolution results are faked if you report them in FPS instead of frame time, you cannot measure the IPC with FPS.
    Having 40 FPS vs 50 FPS is not the same as 120 FPS vs 130 FPS, it's more than 5 times slower (5 ms deviation vs ~0.7 ms deviation, both 10 FPS difference).
    If you really want results in FPS (which is the wrong measurement unit) than use at least a benchmark configuration where a sensible FPS difference really matters.

    ComboPI 0.0.7.x should support Ryzen 3000 processors. Most of OEM and MB are moving now to ComboPI 1.0.0.2 and beyond...
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2019
    thesebastian likes this.
  13. Venix

    Venix Master Guru

    Messages:
    938
    Likes Received:
    321
    GPU:
    Palit 1060 6gb
    But but but .... I have blue eyes :( am i a clown :'( ?
     
    Aura89 and BReal85 like this.
  14. ruthan

    ruthan Master Guru

    Messages:
    252
    Likes Received:
    20
    GPU:
    G970/3.5G MSI
    I expected better games results, its nice for work.. but its not again gaming CPU.. what was last best AMD gaming cpu - Athlon 64?
     
  15. neikosr0x

    neikosr0x Member

    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    11
    GPU:
    Corsair 8GB DDR3 1333mhz
    Testing game at 720p is misleading as fack, I mean as far as we know. We can't say for sure that the CPU pipeline wouldn't just restring it self from pushing max frequency when is not really been pushed that hard on CPU like it is playing at 720p, Yes the borderline would be the CPU instead of the GPU but still i dont think that is an indicator of IPC or that the CPU is utilizing full power for task that doesn't require that. CPUs have algorithms to understand how these task should be handled, that might be one of the reasons way. If you see at the CB benchmark result the 3900x Single Core performance is on pair with the 9900k. Probably the fact that they tested with 3200mhz and who knows what latency were they running at.
     

  16. neikosr0x

    neikosr0x Member

    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    11
    GPU:
    Corsair 8GB DDR3 1333mhz
    i suppose you are kidding hahahahaha. Your old 5930 has no chance vs a 3900x sorry. Please don't be a troll. And it is not a secret that AMD was close to Bankruptcy it is not new and nobody cares? who else would care about it if not the CEO and the stock. We are all potential customers not some stock holders.
     
    Aura89 likes this.
  17. rl66

    rl66 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,135
    Likes Received:
    128
    GPU:
    quadro K6000+Tesla M2090
    And most of them work fine with 2 despite 4 at minimum... (but it's not good for industry).

    It seem to have pretty descent performance.
     
  18. neikosr0x

    neikosr0x Member

    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    11
    GPU:
    Corsair 8GB DDR3 1333mhz
    The problem with Intel 10nm is that their chips tend to have more density. We really don't know by how much because they stopped publishing it. So at lower scale Intel is having problems with heat and high frequencies. That is the reason why, they can do it on Laptops and not on Desktop... But that's just matter of time. AMD HAVE!!! to lead otherwise they can be pretty much thrown to the rubbish in 1 or 2 years.
     
  19. Backstabak

    Backstabak Master Guru

    Messages:
    434
    Likes Received:
    159
    GPU:
    MSI GTX 970
    Seems kinda weird that there is practically no difference between 3900x and 3700x, probably the chosen games just do not use more threads so it doesn't matter. This would also explain the AC:Origins result that probably does utilize more threads and where both Ryzens are on top.
     
  20. rl66

    rl66 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    2,135
    Likes Received:
    128
    GPU:
    quadro K6000+Tesla M2090
    It was 4 years ago info and it was right at this moment, but no more.

    The only major issue with AMD is the distribution of their production.
    The company focus on some countries (Germany, France, Netherland, US, UK and Asia) and it is still really hard to put the hand on their product in some place (and again Amazon and other doesn't deliver everywhere as some believe in).

    This is even a bigger issue because their target is "mainstream plus" consumer (if you can have a system with Intel + Nvidia set in a few hour and a Ryzen + Radeon set next week (or month) for the same price. Wich one would you chose?). Also the AMD price is... strange (if you have a single concurrent at least you should take care of their price to get aggressive.)

    AMD is lot better but Intel is still far away despite some attack because they were sleeping, it will be hard to get AMD at the point they were in the 90' but i am confident.

    (Also i am not blue, green of red fanboy, i take what seem the best at the moment)
     
    Aura89 likes this.

Share This Page