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AMD Ryzen 7 3700X & Ryzen 9 3900X review with benchmarks leaks out

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Rich_Guy, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. D3M1G0D

    D3M1G0D Ancient Guru

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    This reddit thread contains some more info on this leak: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/c9h2v9/psa_from_the_leaked_german_review_amd_3000_series/

    As posted by u/Ex1v0r:
     
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    Those 65W TDP become more sexually charming day by day, leak by leak..
     
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    Please not again another "new" 911.. [cit]
     
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    Read that as iced cake. Need cake. Anyway, yeah that bench using slow ram with intel, seems legit...
     
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    Pointless, no one plays at 720p...

    Show some 1080p and up.
     
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    The point is to show a bottle neck. at 1080 there will be no difference, which is great.

    IF this holds true good job AMD Intel needs ridiculous boost clocks to keep that performace crown and you are just steadily chipping away at the 9900K.
     
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    Cracking Jugs! :D
     
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    Do you review GPU here??

    ppl need to understand that this is CPU review and there MUST not be GPU limit! or then whats the point when the test is on CPU not the GPU
     

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    To a degree, i agree. The point is to show a bottleneck. But, if there is no difference at 1080p (we'll have to see), are all reviewers going to review them at 720p? What happens if there's a point where there's no difference at 720p? 480p? and then at 480p? Lower?

    I do fully agree that you should run tests that will show what the difference rather then what is, for instance, 4K is nice to see, but hopefully in anyones review, is not the "only" resolution shown, as we all know, it'll show little to no difference.

    But how low is...too low? I kinda feel 720p is too low. There are a few people who still game at it, i'm sure, which is why i'm not 100% saying it absolutely is too low, but at a certain point, and 720p is straddling it, it really only works to fuel "intel is king!" comments.

    It's the same reason, non-gaming wise, people typically don't review desktop CPUs to massive-server workloads and compare how "horrible" they are at it....it's not realistic.
     
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    But guys according to AMD you can't stream on Intel processors remember............

    And AMD fanboy's say your just gonna get hacked running Intel!!! You aren't safe!!!! Get the aluminum hats out!
     
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    The only people that game at 720p are people with iGPU's or really really old graphics cards. 1080p is mainstream. In any case can't believe i am seeing people arguing over 7% difference. Intel has a very minor lead no doubt due to the lower latency of the cache and memory controller.

    Ironic the 9900K 95w stock in a lot of cases is doing better than the 9900K with MCE i am guessing the CPU must be hitting some sort of limiter like voltage or temps with the exception of ACO where the higher all core turbo allows the MCE configured beat out the the stock one in minimum frames anyway.

    No what AMD said was you can stream with the highest quality preset without dropped frames. Like it or not it's the future. 5 years from now you will be like i can't believe we liked the fast preset.
     
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    720p is certainly an unrealistic resolution (I doubt even competitive gamers would game at such a resolution, as you need a sufficiently high resolution to see opposing players at a distance), it's just the best resolution to use to eliminate GPU bottlenecks. It's relevant in a CPU review, although I would say such testing is mostly synthetic or limited to very specific use cases.

    Of course there are many who say such tests are relevant in showing future performance, although that doesn't make sense - it assumes games in the future will be played with a CPU cap due to faster GPUs, but it doesn't factor in rising graphics standards. Even if GPU power quadruples in the next several years, high-end gaming will still be limited by the GPU - after all, 8K monitors/TVs are already coming out, and 8K is four times the pixels of 4K. Technologies like raytracing also imposes a GPU cap even at low resolution so the idea that gaming in the future will be CPU-capped is unrealistic to say the least (if anything, it will be more GPU-bound than ever before).

    At any rate, seeing as how the 9900K lost 4 out of the 6 game benchmarks in minimum FPS, I'd say the results are pretty good for Ryzen. The official reviews on 7/7 should tell the full story.
     
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    But there en-lies my question really:

    It's useful in a test because it eliminates GPU bottlenecks. But if you're reviewing a CPU for the sake of gaming, but you use unrealistic settings no one uses, what actual use is that information from a review standpoint which is supposed to guide people on what is good or not for their purpose? Like i'm not saying you should make certain there is a bottleneck, not at all, only be realistic with what people are actually using.

    It's why i'm on the fence about my opinion on this subject. To see a review show how a CPU does in a game, no bottleneck, is interesting, i believe it SHOULD be done. But then i see it used constantly for flame baiting, and i just wonder if it's even worth it lol
     
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    Those results @1280*720 are so stupid!!!... why not take 640*480 or 320*240 or even lower ?!?!?- yeah with 100000000000000000fps
    -cause only then you can enjoy with a m³ of coffee the electrons creeping around the nucleus of the atom while laying on the couch!!!!

    Just brainless... (Hilbert never does this.... he nows what 2 bench)
     
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    It's always the AMD guys with the rage fits when using metrics that show a per core and per clock IPC deficit for AMD. If you were fair, you'd not be trying to bias benches to favor AMD. That's brainless. ;)
     
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    Or the Germans, by the looks of it.

    Just joking, of course. Everybody knows Germans prefer 480p.
     
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  20. theoneofgod

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    It's a back n forth conversation. It's to show CPU performance. And 720p is a somewhat realistic resolution to game at. 240p is not. You won't buy a CPU based on this alone but it gives us an idea.
    I'm grateful for any information on these CPU's right now.
     
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