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AMD Ryzen 7 3700X & Ryzen 9 3900X review with benchmarks leaks out

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Rich_Guy, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. Alessio1989

    Alessio1989 Maha Guru

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    that was 4 years ago..

    today: AMD 6.31
    https://www.gurufocus.com/term/zscore/AMD/Altman+Z-Score/Advanced+Micro+Devices+Inc
    today: INTEL 4.09
    https://www.gurufocus.com/term/zscore/INTC/Altman-Z-Score/Intel-Corp


    So yes, stop with that bullshìt, you are really getting ridiculous ..
     
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  2. Webhiker

    Webhiker Master Guru

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    OMG you must be so scared right now.
    We all remember Intel's internal memo that leaked out a little while ago.
    Looking at the game slides where there is no difference in FPS between 3900X and 3700X tells me it's a lightly threaded game. Chosen with one purpose in mind
    together with the 720p resolution.
    Once the workload starts to increase Intel CPU's can boost very high compared to their single core speed and then what happens ?
    AMD's increased IPC starts to kick in and who looks bad then ?
     
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  3. Webhiker

    Webhiker Master Guru

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    You could also say that Intel have been ripping people off over the last 4 years.
     
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  4. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    So, Zen2 closed maximal gap in between Zen+ and intel's best by 50% in worst case scenario... but being bit faster in best case scenario.
    Taking 9900K as reference, Zen2 is ranging from 15% slower to 2% faster in this scenario where GPU is not limiting factor.

    For 1080p with meaningful game details, there shall be no more KING this or that arguments.
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    Don't be fool by posting some old stuff from times before Zen/RDNA.
     
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    barbacot Member Guru

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    Please enough with this nm! Everybody here talks in nm like it is something that you can touch or see or brag about it. I don't care if it is micrometers instead of nanometers if the performance is great!
    From these benchmarks right now intel is still the best for gaming and that's it.
    But the price perfomance ratio how is it???
    Is it any difference in performance between a x570 and x470 motherboard? and immediately below
    Is it worth it to buy a very expensive x570 motherboard???
     
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  6. Venix

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    Maybe on the 4000 series they will have to start benching on 480p to find some differences!
     
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  7. Alex13

    Alex13 Ancient Guru

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    Fanboy toxicity already hitting critical levels, abort abort
     
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    Aura89 Ancient Guru

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    Though i don't believe in saying "intel is dead" like the guy you quoted, there's few....completely bonkers things you just posted.

    For one, i mean...like..wow, really? reallllly? You posted a 4 year old reddit based off of Z-score information that is pretty much just a guessing game. Sure, there's some "information" it uses but it's not even remotely accurate.

    But, it's 4 years old.... it's talking about it's pretty much just before rising back up with ryzen z-score of 0.29.

    Want to know what AMDs is currently? 6.31

    Want to know what Intels is currently? 4.09

    Higher is better.

    Does this mean Intel has a higher likelihood of going out of business then AMD, today? If you believe in that stuff, which since you posted about it implies you do, then apparently, Intel is going out of business man! Dang!

    And no, your 5930 can't beat a 3900x not even remotely. If you overclock the CPU, sure, you could, MAYBE, do better in some games, at nonsensical settings. But, you can't compare OC to non-OC, so then you'd have to compare OC'd 5930 to OC'd 3900x. Sorry but, no. No realm of reality supports your.......ideas? Can we even classify this whole post as even remotely an idea? Seems to me it's just an intel employee spewing nonsense again....

    Man, poor poor Intel, that z-score, almost half of what AMDs is, poor poor Intel....at least, you must be saying and feeling that way right now if you're going to throw that BS of a 4 year old article in this discussion. I'm sure you're not, since you're an Intel employee throwing out BS to protect your company.
     
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  9. angelgraves13

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    I’d never buy. 9900K as it doesn’t have enough cores. I bought a 5960X at the time because it was a step up from 4 cores, but 8 cores are just not enough. I do stuff other than gaming so need as many cores as possible. Even Intel’s own high core count CPUs aren’t great for gaming compared to their high speed single threaded gaming parts. This isn’t news.

    I’m gaming at 4K so CPU performance isn’t very important as that’s not where I’m bound.

    Intel is one of the worst companies in the world. They pay OEMs to only use their chips. They’re very anti-consumer. If they didn’t have good marketing to brainwash the masses, you all would see them for who they are. They’re not pushing technology forward. They’ve been holding it back for nearly 10 years.

    If Zen 1 never came out you’d all still be on 4 cores still unless you wanted to pay $1K.

    They can die a slow and painful death for all I care. Nvidia is no different. They held back Turing until there was a reason to release something Super, and the tech press ate it up singing their praises.
     
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  11. EspHack

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    right now it would be crazy to buy an intel cpu that isnt the 9900k or at least 8700k if its strictly for high fps gaming, and even then ryzen seems to have gotten 99% of the way there, and then some(12-16c)

    i think it is fair to say intel is now selling on brand name alone, that inertia can only last so long, i just hope they dont throw another conroe at AMD and AMD makes a sad pikachu face again
     
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  12. Venix

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    Yet all those cpus will happily do 240+++ fps on cs go , lol and all those eSports where the most extreme gsync monitors cap out we are talking about less than 4msec between each frame adding 100 fps will reduce this leas than 1msec and the higher the fps the more the returns deminish.
    Assuming there is a point going over the monitors refresh rate and this 1msec actually makes a difference and somehow you can react to things you did not see yet .... Even if you are some kind of superhuman after some point it just does not matter . Except if i am mistaken and this less than 1msec (and i am very generous with that) will take off your bronze league and get you into the double diamond noob smasher league !..... doubt that.
     
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    ryzen running with 3200mhz memory vs intel running with 2667mhz memory, don´t look a good comparison
     
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    Actually, 640x480 would be the best resolution for taking the GPU out of the equation to test the cpu independently--and 1280x720 seems really oddball to me. But why not 1920x1080 & up?--that's the res (1080P) AMD demoed because it is overwhelmingly the most-used resolution for gaming today. So, guess we'll have to wait until Sunday to start seeing some complete tests excluding the "leaked" mess we've seen so far--1280x720 was a resolution used commonly in games ~12 years ago, maybe....;) Nobody will use it today, of course. As far as we know now--this "leaked" stuff is not only extremely incomplete, but it also could have been something done months back on Ryzen 3 engineering samples--or it could be 100% fake--in two days we'll know if it's real or utterly fake. What is the status of the mboard used--it's bios, etc.

    No kidding...if I had a nickel for every time I've heard "AMD is doomed" since 1999, well, I'd be a lot better off financially....;)

    What's supremely obvious here is that the leaker, whomever he is, is only interested in painting the most negative picture of Ryzen 3k he could find/create/invent, etc....! It's so anti-Ryzen 3k it's almost funny...well, it is funny...;) Anything to rain on AMD's parade at this point. Such panic is highly amusing to observe--I can almost feel sorry for the leaker, whomever he is, as he appears to have a vested interest in making Ryzen 3k look as bad as he can.
     
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  15. anticupidon

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    Even after the official reviews there will be biased people, always the same thing all over again.
    Some people are willing to be blind, even if they have eyes. Closing your eyes and identifying yourself as blind is stupid IMHO.
    We will see, we will measures, and no company is "dead".
    Each company have their pros and cons and everyone should use reason and logic when buy something.
    X company releases a "killer" the other company is "dead" sounds childish at some point.
    C'mon lads, let's act like gentlemen here, GURU3D forums have readers worldwide.This is the quality content you want to show to the world ?
    I know you can do better.
    Make it so!

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. nz3777

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    I think your the one who needs to wake up lol- Intel is getting there asses handed to them on almost every front- you wear glasses or something? If so please clean them off or something,Dude.
     
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    It's too late, just follow this guy, he came prepared:
     
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  18. angelgraves13

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    Do you know grammar? I can’t take your post seriously if you don’t even know the difference between “there” and “their”

    The 5930k doesn’t really overclock too well anymore. They’re about 30% slower after all the security holes were patched.

    I await your in depth technical review of the 3900X v 5930K using fully patched bios and Windows 10.
     
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    What??? Troll much? lol
    You might also find that that link is 4 years old! AMD have done a lot since then!
     
  20. fry178

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    Lol when i see ppl holding on to a 1% difference-straw, with a cpu/eco system thats at least going to be 10% more expensive.

    A golf gti needs about 300hp to do 150mph.
    A porsche(or similar super sports car) needs +500hp
    to do 200mph.
    The golf is 40k, the others +100k.
    So are they faster than the golf? Yes, 1.3x, while costing 2x more.
    Same with intel, except im (like many others) are not stupid enough to throw money at intel to get a 1 or 2% higher fps.
     
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