AMD Ryzen 5000 (ZEN3) announcement thread

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  1. Fediuld

    Fediuld Master Guru

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    X670 is AM4 so DDR4/PCIe 4 but will arrive Q1 2021.

    Zen 4 motherboards will be on AM5 socket for DDR5/PCIe 5 later in 2021.
     
  2. Unstizzy

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    where is that confirmed?
     
  3. Anarion

    Anarion Ancient Guru

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    Nowhere.
     
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  4. theoneofgod

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    For AM4?? If you expected DDR5 and PCIe v5 with Zen 3 then you officially blew my mind for the day.
     
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  5. TheSissyOfFremont

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    Any idea when we're likely to be seeing third party benchmarks/reviews?
     
  6. tty8k

    tty8k Master Guru

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    Best budget gaming at this point while stock will last is i5 9600KF at €189
    Second option is 3600x at €220
    Third option would be 10600k at €260

    5600x coming in at €340 is already more expensive than a 3700x at €310 and 9700k at €300.
    It's rather closer to 10700k at €390.

    While performance wise it's probably slightly higher than the first 3 in gaming, price wise it's not a low budget option at all.
     
  7. Loophole35

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    His avatar is Timmy so take that for what it’s worth.
     
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  8. theoneofgod

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    You have a point.
     
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  9. Alex13

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    It's 300, not 340, and it will be 260-250 within a few months, AMD CPU's always drop in price over time (3700x for example went down to 280 from 340), unlike Intel. And to properly oc CPU and memory you need the more expensive z490 chipset. You can do that on AMD on any board, entry level or not. So it's a wash as you will likely need (waiting for 3rd party reviews) that fancy z490 to get close or match the 5600x's performance.
     
  10. kapu

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    Ryzen 3600XT is cheaper than 3600X in some shops . Kinda crazy but that how it is :D

    https://www.komputronik.pl/product/640590/amd-ryzen-5-3600x.html - 235 EURO
    https://www.komputronik.pl/product/694108/amd-ryzen-5-3600xt.html - 237 EURO

    RYZEN 5600X ----- 335 EURO MINIMUM.

    That is not 50 EUR more but 100 EUR more than last gen.

    Here big etailer , prices EXACLY the same. When started they costed almost 50-70 euros more than X variant.

    I think i will hold to my 3300X for quite long time , i checked some benchmarks and it doesn't seem it will be big bottleneck for RTX 3060 ( or similar radeon level performance).
    Next year i will replace it for 5600X if AMD comes to senses and drops prices or INTEL will force them with 11th GEN.
     

  11. k3vst3r

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    Generally speaking, when you change memory system usually the pin count changes on the motherboard, which in turn means new socket. Plus PCI-E 5.0 probably will need more pins for extra bandwidth required between chipset and the chiplet, usually thicker traces an more layers on motherboard are implemented too, also to clear up any signal crosstalk issues. Intel still struggling to implement PCI-E 4.0 due to signalling problems, which sounds like are fixed in next cpu's coming in March 2021.
     
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  12. tty8k

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    It's $300 in US.
    European import tax + VAT

    AMS cpus always dropped in price unlike Intel? You don't even bother to look at the prices then mate, stop talking out of your arse really.
    You can overclock a Ryzen ? To what result ? lol ...

    And it seems to be that you're working at AMD marketing team you already know prices will go down in a few months, lol.
     
  13. Unstizzy

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    I hear you but there were sockets bridging ddr2 to ddr3, 3 to 4. No reason it couldn't happen today :).

    That's my man J..J..J...Jaa...Jimmy btw. Timmy is another fella.
     
  14. Goiur

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    Maybe, that AM4 platform was spec out 5-6 years ago made it a little hard to plan for a DDR5 spec that, by the time, hardly existed in blueprints.
    So no, we wont have DDR5 on AM4 platform, next year with AM5 and new chipsets comes new DDR5.
     
  15. theoneofgod

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    Do you think we'll have PCIe 5? I think it's far too soon but you never know...
     

  16. Goiur

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    I think that will take time to be mainstream, wont have much aplication for everyday use.

    The just released 4.0 is a feature few people will use as it fullest. Has "zero" impact on everyday use or gaming untill more tech is developed on game engines. ( There is a hardware unbox video un hd vs ssd vs nvme 3 and 4 for loading times).
     
  17. Alex13

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    History speaks for it self, and i live in europe.
    Try a bit harder next time youre being an ass kiddo.
     
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  18. kapu

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    What for ? PCIE 4.0 is almost usless , maybe in few years will be needed in typical desktop.
     
  19. theoneofgod

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    NVMe I guess. Also you could run a GPU at x8 and have more lanes for other stuff.
    All the 5's sounds like a good marketing thing too!
     
  20. tty8k

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    Having a 3500MB/s SSD and a 560MB/s I can tell you in real application there isn't much difference between them.
    Basically game loading times are almost identical, copy of multiple (thousands) small files is the same more or less.

    You can only see a major difference if you write/read a single huge file to it, something like a 10GB+ in one file.
     
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