AMD Ryzen 5000 Mobile processors announced

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    AMD today announced their ZEN3 architecture based processors for ultra-thin notebooks beginning with the Ryzen 7 5800U. New mobile 8-core 5800 and 5900HX series for gaming are announced as well. ...

    AMD Ryzen 5000 Mobile processors announced
     
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    suty455 Master Guru

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    There it is RDNA2 in a mobile chip Intels pain may have just gotten much worse
     
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    Agonist Ancient Guru

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    Give me new surface 3 with the 5300U and I will buy it.
     
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    tunejunky Maha Guru

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    this is the secret sauce

    and omg a 45 watt oc'ing cpu? be still my beating heart... especially as that OC will be well within an Intel's heat envelope.
     
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    Not necessarily. RDNA2 was a major leap in performance, but so is Xe.
     
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    No, please. Make it with Zen3, so at least a 5600U. Or minimum to be mainstream with 8core, so the 5800U :p AMD would get free marketing, Surface will get extra high performance with satisfied customers
     
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    Watch for the charts! 5300U is based on Zen2. The smallest CPU based on the Zen 3 is the 5600U, as said by D1stRU3T0R.
     
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    Guess we will see in a few weeks but my guess is AMD will have Intel beaten and well beaten, looking at the number of planned builds Intels claiming 40 + AMD is showing 150+ the guys that build these machines have had prior information we are not privy too.
     
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    Meanwhile an nvidia 1650ti mobile is pissing on their new mobile cpus in all those digital creation, encoding and render tests.
    But hey they're nice marketing slides and I bet ms office runs faster.
     
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    suty455 Master Guru

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    but is that not a dedicated GPU?
     

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    True but is the part that makes sense if you're involved with the mentioned above.
    Unless you want to waste 4x more of your time using the "latest" mobile cpu also presented above.

    Generally a 1060/2060/3060 from nvidia (not to add to much to the overall cost) outperforms any mobile cpu by a mile.

    Not to mention your laptop runs much cooler when using the gpu.
    For example encoding, the gpu is used about 10% while providing a 4x faster encoding time.
    Try that on cpu and you'll have it throttling, slow as fk and your laptop to sound like a helicopter.
     
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    suty455 Master Guru

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    But thats not in a thin form factor, having used a MSI games centric laptop in the past I can attest to its great performance provided you dont mind toting round a couple of kilos of Laptop and putting up with at best a couple of hours battery life, these laptops are for whole day use and portability
     
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    Well there are thin factor sporting a 1660 or 2060.
    If you mean gaming laptops then ya those are not exactly light but for example even ms surface comes with a dedicated nvidia card.

    Otherwise why glorify those cpus other than better ms office experience.
    Performance per watt? Ahem, have a look at apple M1.
     
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    That's fine with me. Could be Zen1.
    I hate every small netbook or surface is intel and has crappy perfomance, storage and IGP.
     
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    I was looking at hacked mobile processors with adapters for my Haswell as replacement and while a tad obscure, performance seems good. I wonder if these CPUs would work well in a desktop OC'ed to the MAX?
     

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    i have a thin form factor rtx 2070 laptop, i had an 1070 thin form factor before that.

    the difference in battery life with better screen, gpu, and even cpu (intel) was about 2x. i couldn't even game on battery on the 1070 for one hour at the usual settings.

    the new 30xx mobile and the rocket lake (no mobile alder for a year) will be even better than that
    and later this year the Ryzen/Navi mobile with more threads at lower power (and a few console tricks as well) with better for the dollar gaming will be better still.

    the slim power laptop is pure money with some of the best profit margins in each manufacturer's line.
    i have definitely built better systems for less money but that isn't an issue in this market segment.

    the sff laptop has driven some of the largest changes in the computing industry over the last five years.
    the numbers show that and the numbers also show that gamers are willing to pay the price premium for gaming on the road (or in a dorm). and although mobile has the longest lagtime per generation it has increasingly been outselling both oem and enthusiast builds by wider margins each year.

    the best part is miners aren't interested in mobile gpus
     

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