AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Takes The Lead in Passmark Single Thread Scores

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  1. mrvco

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    Can't wait. If the 5950x is really exceeding 5GHz on its boost clock alone, one has to wonder what the OC headroom is on the other Zen3 procs.
     
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    Yeah but the single core performance , but the higher clocks , if you play cinebench get AMD , ….
    waaait a minute .
    " No thanks ? "
    Is that all we get today ?
    well even the troll is out of arguments by the looks of things .
     
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    Well thats great for 1 core (a bit suspicious that most leaks show single thread performance no?)
    Lets see how it goes when it drops to 4.2-4.3 on all cores vs an Intel that clocks higher like 5GHz (OC).

    Will see how they convince me to pay 350e for this vs a 10700k (or whatever the 11700k will be).
     
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    perhaps I would just feel weird paying $300 for six cores.
     

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    This is awesome, I hope we start getting more options for AMD laptops soon. Sadly there's no workstation or high-end gaming laptops available with 4800h/4900h, maybe we'll finally get those with 5xxx / Zen 3 mobile chips.
     
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    Not really since we all know AMD is superior in multi-threading and the 5000 series will only widen that gap to Intel. The reason single thread performance is being shown is due to the performance increase AMD have made in that area. With a 40 fps increase in Shadow of the Tomb Raider in 1080p compared to previous gen Ryzen is just mind boggling. When have Intel ever given you a performance uplift like that ?
     
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    All nice and dandy but let's wait and see real life gaming benchmarks and if they can beat 5.3 oc'd intels there on 1080p..
     
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    Well that's easy since Intel didn't have such crap gaming processors to improve in the first place.
    The difference it's bigger when you come from a hole.

    Lets see what difference is in 2k and even 4k gaming so that they charge premium.
    Any chance of a 5% difference would be wonderful for the 50% more money.

    1080p is a lost memory, at least 5 years old to me.
     
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    @tty8k
    and?
    the benchmark for hw sales are the +60-80% (depending on country/game etc) that are on 1080p (720p).
    outside the fact that virtually every bench/games shows almost no difference for 2k, and definitely almost nil at 4K,
    and completely ignoring that almost all (that dont have a 2080-ti/3090) are bottlenecking on the gpu, not the cpu, so upgrading the gpu would give far more gains than cpu.
     
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    AMD hasn't really overtaken Intel in CPU performance it's more like Intel has stagnated with their 14nm ++++++++++++++++ and left the door wide open.. ^^
     

  11. theoneofgod

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    It's the same thing.
     
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    By this same logic, the 10600k would be in the same boat. And everything inbetween.

    Just because they have the same amount of cores doesn't mean they'll have the same performance....
     
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    On paper Zen3 will be very good for gaming( a lot of cache ,no more CCXs , revised arch and infinity fabric bus) .

    Games love single thread performance because don't scale too much with high number of cores , but memory latency will hurt gaming.
    Zen3 will have a new memory controller , but it is still located outside the die (CCD) into that huge I/O controller die. Even with a lot of L3 cache that can hide memory latency , miss prediction occur in real life games . Cores are accessing memory controller via infinity fabric and that adds latency.
    I really hope for AMD to bring a really strong processor for gaming, I can't wait for reviews of Ryzen 5000 series .
     
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    It doesn't really matter where they came from. Since Zen 1 was released they have done nothing but improve generation by generation. As a matter of fact it's a lot more impressive coming from nothing than releasing another 14+++++++++++++++++++ node with 2% performance increase. When Intel was ahead 1080p and even 720p was VERY important to show CPU performance, now it's not important at all. Suddenly 4k is all Intel cares about for the simple fact that the GPU matters more not the CPU. How pathetic is that.
     
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    That's intel marketing in the nut shell :D I'm waiting for cheap 5600 to appear , i hope AMD can put 200 euro price tag on it ....
     

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    Well that arguement falls short when AMD releases the 5600 non-X for a rumored $220!?.
    Rumor has it around $220 USD. Not sure in Euros. With the 5600x at $300 and the 5800x @ $450, given the IPC gains alone, the $220 5600 looks like a stellar buy. I'd love a 5800x but I think the price point is too high.
     
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    AMD uses the best chips for the most expensive parts. If they have an 8 core chip that hits max speed they will use it on their higher models and leave the worst chips for the cheapest parts. Makes some sense although i agree that an X part should have the fastest chip available.

    Anyway, Zen 3 seems to be an hit and the 5800x is looking so good! Good thing it´s too expensive for me otherwise...
     
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    But not in gaming.
     
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    This round appears to be quite different :D
     
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    lol.
    unless you have a 2080ti or equivalent, your gpu bound,
    and even the ppl i know that have tis, they rather have a more up to date platform, than 2fps more on intel
     

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