AMD Ryzen 3000 with 12 and 16 cores will be coming as well

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Sweet. 12 core will do me for a few years. AMD has nailed it on the CPU side of things. GPU is a little meh though.
     
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    So early leaks were spot on. This will be a Fantastic product.
     
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    Thanks for posting that Hilbert ,
    Lisa also confirmed that they gonna have more then 8-core, and the starting point for the performance (for mid-range CPU) will be 9900K that can be easily cooled by Box cooler :).
    About the Vega7, I am sure it will sold like crazy, First of all this gonna be Great Content creator GPU with 16GB for as little as 699$, Plus the 8GB Vram, for 2080 gonna be limiting factor for smooth gaming for 4K max quality, I home more review gonna measure the 0.1%/1.0% FPS.
    @Hilbert How does the number of ROP's affect the performance of a GPU? since vega7 got 128 Rop's vs 64 on Vega64?
     
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    Wouldn't surprise me if your also seeing the PS5 & Xbox Two APU in that shot, the single 8c/16t chiplet for the CPU with the unused space for a 10-12 Tflop class GPU.
     
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    Actually 16gb HBM2 with AMD's higher teraflops than Nvidia makes for a great computing card, so I'm pretty happy. Sure it won't be the king of gaming performance but that's alright.
     
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    I'm a gamer though. Vega was always more of a compute card, with gaming more of an afterthought. Sure it performs well, but i was really looking forward to a Navi launch. My RX480 is starting to get a bit long in the tooth for 1440p.
     
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    This is somehow obvious AMD would not let Intel to dominate the market anymore with it's chiplet design.
    I cannot wait to see the new Zen2 in action.
    It's a pitty Zen2 doesn't launch the same time as the previous generation did so far. (end of April)
    I was gonna get rid of my 8700k+ motherboard before summer but I'll just wait then.
     
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    What worries me is latency.
    Ryzen already incurs in a latency penalty with cross CCX loads, having 2 separate CPU dies probably means even higher latency cross die.
     
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    Woah, this will be a beast for sure! Too bad we have to wait 6 months.

    I didn't know content creators is such a big customer group. With the information we have today I don't see a reason why gamers would buy it so "sell like crazy" feels like a bold statement. Maybe it will sell like crazy if miners start to buy the card as well.

    And I disagree that the 2080 is a 4K card. I have the 1080Ti and it's not exactly 4K either. Sure, it runs some games at 4K/60fps but with reduced settings.
     
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    Yes, the raster operations pipeline is double that of VEGA10. Throughput, it can greatly benefit VEGA20.
     
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    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Chiplets designs are here to break away from latency issues.
     
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    Can't wait for reviews, currently my next upgrade planned.
     
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    @Hilbert Hagedoorn - Is there a date set for when the NDA on reviews for Vega II (Radeon 7) will be lifted?

    Also, do you think that motherboard vendors will release bios updates for the X370 motherboards to make them compatible with Ryzen 3000 series CPUs?
     
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    We will probably not see 12 and 16 core parts before end of 2019.
    If i was AMD i will in Summer give us up to 8 core CPU. And hold 12/16 to not cannibalize TR2.
    Best time to push 12/16 core will be when TR3 will be released (should start from 16+ cores) and use those 12/16 Ryzens as response to Intel 10nm chips
     
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    Now to await 16 cores on Ryzen platform...
     
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    So this is launching in summer and then as always 1-2 months later Intel will launch new CPUs. AMD showed that their 8 core part can compete against 9900K in cinebench, but at what price? It will probably still be behind in high refresh rate gaming. By the time these Ryzen CPUs come out, hype for new Intel CPUs will be all over the Internet.
     
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    Now that's what I'm interested in seeing with this new design, will they be as good or better than Intel at high refresh rate gaming - this is gonna be a deciding factor for my next build! Hilbert's post I quoted suggests that it's gonna be better than Ryzen has so far been at high refresh gaming, but we'll have to see.
     
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    No, any VEGA20 /Radeon XII info has not been shared.

    And X370 / Ryzen 3000 ... you know .. I'd doubt it? Historically the trend would indicate the answer to be yes, compatible. However, the new chiplet design is such a radical change on that package that the pins and voltages needed just have to be different. I doubt it very much being compatible.
     
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    12 or 16core will be great specially if they are on 5ghz and good price.
    And maybe combine new zen with new vega will be good.
     

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