1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

AMD Ryzen 2700X 50th Anniversary Edition

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by chispy, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    20,879
    Likes Received:
    563
    GPU:
    MSI GTX1660Ti
    Where is your supporting evidence for your "fact"??

    You make the claim, you provide proof of said claim.

    "It doesn't sell well and is often not in stock"..... Half of that statement has the potential to be contrary to the other half. If it's "often not in stock", then either yields are very poor, demand is simply outpacing supply or merchants simply aren't stocking the product. This is where supporting information becomes vital. Do we know, for a fact, what the actual demand is for the product? Do we know, for a fact, what the product supply actually looks like? Do we know, for a fact, what the retailer sales figures are? Either provide the relevant data, or accept that you're wrong. As you're the one making the claim, burden of proof is on you. Why should anyone else have to research supporting evidence for what YOU claim as fact?
     
  2. Aura89

    Aura89 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    7,486
    Likes Received:
    794
    GPU:
    -
    Listed earlier in the thread. Read thread before posting. Only information we have. To state any other opinions based off of nothing is a useless opinion.

    Then again you go on to talk about the same stuff that was explained already in the post you quoted from and tried to argue it as well, so i don't think you are reading anything fully.

    Selling well does not equal selling out. This is fact. Otherwise all i will have to do to sell well is severely limit what i produce, it won't matter that i am selling half as much if not more then my competitor, it'll only matter to impress people who don't bother to actually look at the whole picture.

    But again to reiterate: the information you asked me to provide was already provided by the only source that we have and even compared to how well the rtx 2080 and 2080 ti are selling. Read the thread before posting.

    It has also already been stated that one source is not the whole picture and that is obvious, but its enough of the picture to get a rough idea of what the market is doing (its the same source that has been used and then verified by other sources to be pretty spot on when comparing intel and amd on what is selling). Unless someone thinks for some reason the hundreds of thousands of products sold in germany just from that one company is only sold to nvidia fans, or amd fans or etc.
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2019
    airbud7 likes this.
  3. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    20,879
    Likes Received:
    563
    GPU:
    MSI GTX1660Ti
    I did "read the thread before replying".

    As I'm not fluent in German, simply searching for mindfactory is pretty useless in regards to verifying information. Also, a lot of us don't consider a summary of claimed information, to be proof of anything. Provide a link, and verifying information, or STFU. The mindless fanboy drivel spouted by both sides has gotten old. It's time for everyone to grow up.
     
  4. Aura89

    Aura89 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    7,486
    Likes Received:
    794
    GPU:
    -
    So provide your own then, good luck.

    I provided, you haven't. You wanted proof, i gave, you decided wasn't good enough, so if it's not, then provide your own. Again, good luck.

    Plus, it's not fanboyism when, guess what, it's factual numbers. To claim it is, is fanboyism at its finest. Again if you want to provide "better" proof, so be it, do it. Please, please do it, instead of deciding to try and throw around weak insults as though you're some big guy on the internet.

    I have stated facts based off of any information we have, if people have additional information, great! provide it, please! otherwise, get out of the way and let the adults discuss the facts that we have. I have nothing against AMD, i love AMD, i want their GPU department to flourish, it however, isn't. So to claim i'm a fanboy, because of the facts provided to us, spell specific information not in AMDs favor, that's messed up.

    Also, it's called google translator, as well as the fact that the numbers used on the german site, are still numbers.
     
    airbud7 likes this.

  5. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    20,879
    Likes Received:
    563
    GPU:
    MSI GTX1660Ti
    I'll accept that as you're obviously unable to provide your claimed proof..... It is your claim after-all, therefore burden of proof is on you, not me.
     
  6. Aura89

    Aura89 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    7,486
    Likes Received:
    794
    GPU:
    -
    It's not my claim as it's factual information, but i understand, some people can't figure out what facts are.

    I did not make this information up, so that's on you.
     
    airbud7 likes this.
  7. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    20,879
    Likes Received:
    563
    GPU:
    MSI GTX1660Ti
    Provide a direct link to the information, or go away. It's that simple. YOU made the claim, YOU posted information claiming it to be "factual" and "accurate", so provide proof. It's pretty simple. It's what mature adults do when asked for proof of something. If the information is factual, as you claim, you should have no problem acting like a mature adult and providing a link to the claimed information.
     
  8. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    2,025
    GPU:
    -NDA +AW@240Hz
    He can't. Because mindfactory data are being misrepresented here.
     
  9. vbetts

    vbetts Don Vincenzo Staff Member

    Messages:
    14,457
    Likes Received:
    1,003
    GPU:
    RTX 2070FE
    Realistically we do not have any real data on how many Radeon VII units were sold. AMD has not released any numbers.
     
  10. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    20,879
    Likes Received:
    563
    GPU:
    MSI GTX1660Ti
    We also have no idea what the sales projections were or how many GPUs have been or are/were expected to be binned for the Radeon VII cards. Those are important factors in whether or not a product is selling well.
     
    vbetts likes this.

  11. chispy

    chispy Ancient Guru

    Messages:
    8,759
    Likes Received:
    889
    GPU:
    RTX 2080Ti - RX 580

Share This Page