AMD RX 500 series Launch April 4th with three rebrands

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. FrostNixon

    FrostNixon Master Guru

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    The question now is will Vega release before 1180.
     
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    Ah, they dropped the ball quite hard on the GPU front. It would seem the theory that Nvidia were worried about Vega and released 1080ti yearly to cash their chips will be just a theory. It i starting to look like they new they will be moving forward without real competition in the high brackets and just launched what they had. I hope this is not true but...
     
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    If the 500 series is a true thing why someone should buy the RX 580 when he can pick the 480 8GB for less money and make a small overclock to reach the same performance of the new card?
    I was expecting a 490 powerful like a GTX 1070, and Vega. Now instead it seems we got this 500 series crap. wtf
     

  5. Stairmand

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    AMD's rebranding department is probably the busiest people in the company!
     
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    The situation have changed. NVIDIA sucked money from the customers for nearly 3/4 of a year. Now, when Vega will be coming out, NVIDIA lowered the prices and overpriced Pascal became much more suitable for regular gaming users.
    I mean, Vega seemed to be very powerful against overpriced Pascal... now, odds are even. And maybe...MAYBE, when Vega is released it wouldn´t be that much competitive against current Pascal as it was against overpriced Pascal.

    And another version. NVIDIA is very aware about Vega´s strength, so lowering the prices is just another try to suck dry the customers, and in summer, after Vega release, we will see Pascal Refresh (Ti models of 70,60 or GTX 11x0 or GTX 20x0) Which will be more competitive against Vega.

    Future is unclear, but in favor of a regular customer.

    Buying a GPU now is a nonsense, same as buying a CPU month ago.
     
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    I must be stupid, because I don't understand these rebrands again. Why do that mistake ?
    This is not wise, after new processor launch
     
  8. alanm

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    The defense industry will buy a million of them. Your future soldier.
     
  9. AndreasGuido

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    Again?! they do like their re-branding!
     
  10. thatguy91

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    Well, hopefully RX 580 etc get a price drop and Vega 11 isn't too much more expensive than what the RX 480 was at release.
     

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    They should just drop Vega at this point and just focus all their effort on bringing Navi to market sooner.
     
  12. Silva

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    It's sad for me too because I was hoping on more than a rebrand of Polaris to buy a new GPU. I guess they can't afford to develop anymore, 4/5 years developing Ryzen and they've been trying to push Vega out for over a year now. It's obvious they can't afford to develop the mainstream area and all they can do is rebrand to still be relevant on the market.

    Things don't work like that, they need at least some return on investment to move on to the next tech.
     
  13. BReal85

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    Asking from the "why another rebrand?" guys: did you also asked it from NV 1060-1080 rebrands? I just can't understand what's the problem with the release of these GPUs. These were rumoured earlier and it's completely independent of the Vega release, which was expected for a May-June start. NV also launches 1060 with higher memory bandwidth, so this step is nothing to cry for.
     
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    They should have upped to clocks to above 1500 and this would be more worthwhile. If Nvidia's GPUs can reach 2000, why on Earth can't AMD get even to 1500?
     
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    why is this called a re-brand but the new pascals are called re-freshers ?
     

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    Well, if you have an XFX RX480 GTR , then you pretty much have the RX580(if nothing will be changed but gpu clock). Running @1400MHz only eating up 80-110 W . In some bench-s going over 110 W.
     
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    New Pascals? What did I miss?
     
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    There is a rumor that Nvidia will re-release a few Pascal cards with higher clockrates. The rumor is from wccftech which has been wrong about every major rumor for about a year now.
     
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    From a business term, that's a pretty good plan on Nvidia's side. They certainly will get out of the situation / market / customers. If AMD was to outperform Pascal at a lower price, they'd still not sell as many as Nvidia because they are out later.

    If they'd for once push ahead of Nvidia again, things could look quite different, but as people are waiting, most want to game now, want the better performance now, not wait and see what happens half a year later.

    Selling a product is not only about performance and price, but also about release time and AVAILABILITY. Something that was AMD's achilles heal, might be better with Ryzen being available. But nothing's as poisonous to a product like waiting for half a year for a release, then ordering your GPU, and not getting it for a month because of low numbers. That's just stupid... if you want to sell something, see that there's enough around for people to actually buy. I'm still curious to see if Ryzen is available in great numbers, same with Vega once it's out.


    Maybe they are seeing it that way:
    You see that the 480 / 580 changes little in terms of hardware, that's why it's a rebrand (getting a new number for same hardware).
    If you're upgrading your 1060 with faster VRAM it's a refresh (new hardware, but the same number)

    Notice the difference?
     
  20. Silva

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    The design of the ship influences how it performs, AMD always had lower clocks.

    Agree, would like to know...
     

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