AMD reponds to Ryzen 5000 desktop processor shortages

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    I appreciate them also not wanting to give away the demand to rivals, but like with nvidia, it would be easier news to swallow if they at least gave some reference to illustrate levels they are dealing with.

    If it comes out that they are shipping 1-2% of demand to retailers, that would be frustrating.
     
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    In England an IT Shop called AWD-IT still had some 5900X with motherboard bundles even yesterday.
    I'm not saying this can be called good 'stock' tough but still something.
    Not to say that If you did the math the price was absolutely great compare to other sellers.
    They have priced the 5900X for £500 exactly plus the price of the motherboard which was again for good price.

    Alza had some 5800X on sale yesterday too etc.

    Ampere cards were nowhere to be found 1 minute after official launch just saying.
     
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    Kaarme Ancient Guru

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    5600X seems to still be available. The more desirable models will remain unavailable for who knows how long. I reckon the supplied batches will be sold out quicly, or in fact have already been sold out if a store allows that, for the time being. Thus, nobody can claim the whole launch was a paper launch, with any amount of credibility. In the end, especially with GF out of the picture, AMD itself is a victim of limited supply, just like any other manufacturer that depends on the advanced process nodes. Let's just hope miners won't steal most of the new AMD video cards when they (supposedly) launch.
     

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    Unless we get concrete information from both AMD and Nvidia on units shipped vs previous launches then all of this is just talk, from both sides.
     
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    It was a bit naughty, perhaps even anti-consumer, of AMD to have the NDA in place until launch day, that didn't help anyone and I hope they don't repeat it for 6000 series GPUs...

    I don't understand why Microsoft and Sony can offer pre-orders well in advance for their new products but AMD and Nvidia cannot.

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    Well... at least i'm not the only one saying this was a paper launch.

    Maybe 2-3 countries got the 90% of the stock and are happy with it. The rest of the world got close to nothing.
     
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    Ive not seen any 5900x in stock at the places i normally look at, OCUK, SCAN or Amazon UK.
     
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    Seems like this gen of GPUs/CPUs is cursed. Or at least this year is.
     
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    AMD can look at you. And buy anything and everything you have in instant. And you would not be able to provide additional supply.

    Does that make your existence an "paper existence"?

    Stupid comments and spreading of stupidity will result in one thing only. Manufacturers will release their products at so inflated prices, people will not buy them out.
    Then in few weeks, they may slowly start price reduction.

    A lot of people got their chips, my friends included and one was 2 days too late when he ordered.

    And supply chain does not work way you think it works.
     
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    And the ZEN3 family was available for a stunning 1 hour. It's DEFINITELY not a paper launch....
     
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    You keep barking at the wrong tree. A lot of people got their chips, many more did not, same happened with 3000 series, many people got their gpus, many more did not.

    Its the same scale of failure? Nope, but still a failure of delivering enough product on release date.

    As i already told you, its about the perception of the launch (not a literal paper launch when the product is non existant), i may get my 5900x before friday or maybe in 2021, how far from launch do we need to get the product so you can call it "paper launch" in a non literal way.
     
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    They are not lying , there were big numbers and you can still buy them , also big batches are coming :)
     
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    Sadly this one is i can't find . Should have preordered , tons of people are posting reviews and photos , you can't compare that to Nvidia launch.
     
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    As i said in another thread, its not the same scale of failure, but its pretty clear that the demand was WAY higher than the available stock and AMD failed to plan the launch and make a sotck big enough to support demand. Because of that many of us are waiting and we dont even know for how long.

    PS: And yep.. i preordered 2 weeks in advance. The store got 2 5900x lol
     
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    guys, not to be harsh but... do we understand that we are in a kind of "special" situation and year? (both for AMD and nvidia, even though Nvidia one was kinda too much).


    Also demand might have increased, since people is "confined" and with less social-group activies to do @ winter (at least in Spain)
     
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    There was a lot of frenzy over the latest nVidia graphics cards and also over Zen3, so unsurprisingly demand far exceeded supply.

    That's not the definition of a paper launch though. In the past it would be when the hardware company released information and details to the hardware journalists and general public on their new design but nothing was shipped. They did this normally as they needed a place holder as not competitive with their current line-up. A classic example of this was the nVidia NV30 "launch", the actual card did not appear until months later, to little fanfare as it turned out.

    That is not a paper launch. This is the exact opposite -- nvidia 3000 series and Zen 3 sales were soon after the presentations. Unless paper launch now means " I didn't manage to get one and other people did"

    Even the twitter person who complains in the original article has to use the words "technically" and "practically" to try and say it is a paper launch. Paper launch is the wrong wording, it is used though because it had become a generic term to lambast manufacturers over recent years, away from the original meaning.
     
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