This is a High End Desk Top cpu. This is not intended for gaming but actual work. So all this back and forth about it not being worth it and doesn't make sense etc is all moot points. The Theadripper series is a great choice for the professional that wants an honest cpu, for an honest day of work for an honest price. The gaming community always puts up backround noise about it not being as good as Intel for gaming. Fine. Buy a gaming Intel cpu and game on. The Threadripper series is there if you need it, most of the ones making the noise don't. <----Link showing simulated benchmarks, and explains if this cpu is for you or not.