The same complacency that infected AMD did so to Intel prior, and has done to intel since, do not use intels activities as an excuse for AMD failing to innovate their products. Jim Keller should not have to return to save them every time. I have systems with AMD and Intel parts, I would not reward bad design decisions by buying a FX product, nor would i Reward lack of development by buying AMD rebrands. This chip is for the diehards that contribute to AMD entering its floundering periods consistently. I would choose Ryzen over Intel at this point because Intel have been exposed as killing their Validation team, which is why all these security and corurption flaws have turned up.