AMD Radeon RX 5500 cards available starting December 12

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  1. Venix

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    most likely for every waffer spend on printing Navi gpu's is a waffer not spend printing Zen2 chiplets and if we consider the price the epyc cpus sell for and the yields AMD loosing money each time they produce navi ... well by loosing money i mean making less profit , so till the 7nm demand/production normalise it kinda makes sense they are not in a hurry to release more navi sku's
     
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    I am very interested in these cards as well after seeing what the 1650 super is capable of (being a great upgrade for those with a 1050 ti who want to stick with Nvidia)
     
  3. Silva

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    I don't live in the USA. You can still find RX570 here for over 300€, let alone the other boards!
    And ya, some shops have rolled back to msrp prices, while in the USA they're almost giving them away (I would have bought a RX570 long ago for 100€ or so if they existed here).
    Even second hand market is asking 250€ for a RX580, most certainly from mining...
    I'm not going to pay msrp for a 2015 card. Call me cheap? I call it not supporting bad business practices.
    I'll buy a card that performs and has a competitive price, if more people were like me we would not have 2080ti at 1500€.

    PSA: the world is not just the USA.
    PS: I bought Ryzen 2600 for around 130€ in August, its even cheaper now. I'd do the same with the RX570/580/590 if one of them had a decent price, but RX5500 consumes almost half the power and will probably be around the same performance for 200€.
     
  4. Undying

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    When DF tested the xbox1x against rx580 in a red dead 2 they performed about the same with the same quality settings. Makes sense, becouse its the same gpu.
     
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  5. warlord

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    They are almost equal more cores shaders vs higher clocks. If only dgpu of pc could update vbios with more added features. That's the only positive of console at the moment. Vbios is integrated in firmware and os. Pc is abandoned in that aspect. Only drivers and it is already moved to Navi's perspective. Let's hope amd is gonna take lessons from Microsoft bigger corporation.
     
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    Yet cards with 4gb, 6gb, on lower bandwidth beat the polaris cards. More core processing power > high amounts of useless memory.
     
  7. Undying

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    Even if the card cant utilize all 8gb it can atleast use more than 4gb. 1650S is slower than 580 and 1660 is using faster memory.
     
  8. jbscotchman

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    In some games yes it slower, in other it's faster. Strap an extra 4gb of vram on it and you wouldn't even see a difference.
     
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  12. anticupidon

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    My thoughts exactly, but can we do any difference?
    We just received what they release, that's about it.
     
  13. jbscotchman

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    That's a very good point, but over the years Nvidia and AMD have pushed a lot of power out of 128 and specifically 192 bit cards. A perfect example is the 1660 Ti beating a 1070 with less memory, fewer cores, and lower bandwidth.
     
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  14. Undying

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    1660ti actually have higher memory bandwidth than 1070 and even 1080 due gddr6. Nvidia and amd are positioning these 128bit cards as 1080p gpus for a reason.
     
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    Planned to get a second hand Vega, but that 5600 seems to sip so less power and if it will perform well in the 1080p-2k area, I'll reconsider my options.
     
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  16. jbscotchman

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    Embrace the new paths of AMD gpus. Quit hanging on to the old. I got a bold prediction right now, the 5600XT if priced right will be a big success.
     
  17. jbscotchman

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    Don't even bother with Vega's especially if you want to get the most out of your power supply. Not to mention that driver support has or will end in the near future.
     

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