AMD Radeon Rx 480 3DMark 11 Performance Benchmark Surfaces

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  1. Agonist

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    Fully agreed. MY R9 280 could match the 960 with a good overclock.
    Nvidia gpus have become so over priced and are absurd priced when used.

    Im really thinking about getting one.
    And using it in my main rig.
     
  2. Moegames

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    Aelders is a KNOWN TROLL
    around these neck of the woods, unfortunately, he's very childish and looks for every opportunity to troll anything positive for AMD. Just ignore the little kid.
     
  3. Moegames

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    If the Rx 480 has some decent OC headroom, it will be in striking distance of the 1070, making the 1070 a terrible buy.

    Also, these benchmarks don't even account for AMD's newly optimized GCN technology, so expect DirectX 12 improvements to be VERY NICE.

    If the 480 does indeed OC better than Nvidia's 1070...man oh man does Nvidia have some issues to solve. I really feel AMD knew from the start that they would have better IPC improvements compared to Nvidia along with their better Dx12 efficiency in the most recent games...this 480 suddenly looks much more attractive than the 1070. Nevermind fanboys...this is good for all consumers regardless of your brand of loyalty.

    AMD looks to have one of the best "Bang For Dollar" cards in recent history!!
     
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    Nah it was a nice upgrade from my 3 year old 660Ti then I got my 1080 and am loving it!
     

  5. Denial

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    We have DX12 benchmarks of the card and it performs as expected, so I don't know why you think there is some newly optimized tech for DX12. Further, if the 1266mhz clock is accurate and the card has 2304 SPs, it's a 5.8Tflop card. My 980 at 1340 is 5.5Tflops and scores a GPU score of 20107 in 3DMark11. Which means that the RX 480 is still being bogged down by either their driver or some other architecture problem.

    Regardless, for $200 the card is still really good. I just wouldn't expect it to outperform a 1070.
     
  6. Aelders

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    Unless he means if it clocks to 2ghz when he says "if it OCs better than Nvidia's 1070"

    Maybe :infinity:
     
  7. -Tj-

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    If full Polaris 480x? OC's good then it could catch up stock 980ti/gtx1070, Im guessing ~1450MHz would do the trick..
     
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    Even if it was, it wouldn't have mattered. Nobody buys those ~$600 cards. People are interested in the 480x as a value/low thermals proposition, not a "best performance for $200". Nvidia will definitely release a competitor to the 480x...but will probably charge $50 premium for it, ruining the value.
     
  9. CPC_RedDawn

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    Do you think AMD are still making a profit on these cards though? Or are they trying to make up the loss in sheer volume.

    Also could this entice other vendors to start making AMD cards for the first time or again?
     
  10. thatguy91

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    How much different is the 1000 series Nvidia's compared to the 900 series, in relation to the differences between the Radeon 400 series to the 300? Didn't a lot of the change for Nvidia happen with the 900 series (DirectX 12.1 support for example on the GTX 980), whereas for Nvidia the 300 series was only a small 'jump' over the original 200 series and have time for the drivers to mature, and the big jump actually occuring now with the 400 series?

    What I'm getting at is the Nvidia 1000 series can heavily work off the 900 series drivers, whereas the 400 AMD Radeon series is 'new' (well, signficant changes), meaning the possibility for a higher potential of driver improvements?

    Bit of an over-simplification, but if anyone actually understands what I mean the card could be even more impressive once optimisations mature.

    There's also the whole interesting point of memory. That comes into optimisation, the 400 series like Nvidia are using GDDR5 type memory still. HBM2 memory on the future high end cards looks to be great, but what's the deal with the Nextgen memory that AMD refers to for their 500 series in 2018 (Navi)?. It seems current type HBM2 will be short lived, although I suspect Nextgen may use the principle of HBM2 but be even more impressive and probably more economically viable.

    Furthermore, if you look at the 'spin' graph from AMD, on a picture I can't link because it is w ccf tech which is blocked (okay, it is a rumour based site and makes no claims to the contrary, doesn't mean everything on there is wrong).

    Anyways, the presentation slide pic is for spin l, but if you take the face value of the graph it appears Navi is as good to Polaris as Polaris is to the 300 series GPU's (28 nm). Does that mean it will be 2.5x the performance/watt again? :D. Be interesting whether that is on 10 nm which will possibly be ready by then, also with memory based on the more advanced process along with what will probably be called HBM3 (or something else)...

    What I'm getting at is sure, Polaris is excellent, Vega will be brilliant (the 490/Fury or whatever replacements), and there is more brilliance ahead with Navi. Couple that with a Zen+ CPU and you're good to go!
     
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  11. 0blivious

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    Am I missing something?

    I don't find a brand new, $200/$250 card that performs nearly as well as a 1.75 year old, $500 card to be all that amazing. It's great and all, but this is normal progression. This just may be the best bang/buck card for awhile.

    The GTX1060 will come out and be comparable. The 1070 price will get lower.

    Rinse, repeat, swap sides for the RX580 / GTX1160... RX680 / GTX1260...
     
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  12. thatguy91

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    As I said above, the R9-500 series looks to be the Navi architecture, possibly another huge leap over the R9-400 series.
     
  13. Anarion

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    It will not be anywhere near GTX 1070. Not even when overclocked and I'm almost certain that it will not overclock like crazy. Don't get your hopes up - it will trade blows with GTX 980 and R9 390 series.
     
  14. moab600

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    nvidia GPU are usually overpriced and underperforming for the price, exception would be 970 when it launched, and 980TI till 1080 launch.

    Still think 980TI is the best card nvidia made in recent years, 1080 is just 980TI on lot of steroids.
     
  15. Undying

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    PC Gamer updated. AMD already have best bang for the buck. All around recommendation for best card. 390 atm is 288Eur so RX480 will just take its place. In the meantime, nvidia is trying to sell the 1070 for 500+Eur.

    [​IMG]
     

  16. moab600

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    nvidia had very few card that gave the best fps per $, 970 was their best version, at least till 390 came out.

    But yeah, nvidia cards are way overpriced for what they give, not really worth the money if u ask me, also i hate nvidia approach to gain performance, massive bruteforce with no real innovation, we have to see how it plays out.
     
  17. alanm

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    Agree. AMD themselves compare it to the 970/980 in their leaked slide of the 480. Which makes sense given its $199/249 price points.

    [​IMG]
    But didnt Lisa Su say that Polaris will encompass cards from the $100-300 range? If so, a 490 @ $299 if within 90% of the performance of 1070 should be a big hit too.
     
  18. 0blivious

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    We do this all the time though. High end bar moves up (980Ti->1080). Better tech comes out and is cheaper for similar performance.

    At $350-$380 launch price, the 970 you are running is as good as a 780Ti that cost $700-800 (launch price) the year prior. A higher tier than $200 but another example.

    So, yeah, I'm not seeing the big deal here. AMD didn't come up with some magic video card. It's just going to be the latest good buy.
     
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  20. kilyan

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    Maybe we paid a lot more before for other older cards, but the real price is this one....
     

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