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AMD Navi delayed towards October 2019?

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    After last weeks 7nm VEGA20 aka Radeon VII release, it is now time fo focus on the mainstream segment for AMD. And that means the next in line is NAVI. NAVI would be released this year already. Howev...

    AMD Navi delayed towards October 2019?
     
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  2. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    HERE the article of the French site cowcotland (google translate)

    All that's stated in there is "according to our sources"... well, believe it or not, no idea if this statement is to be believed.
     
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  3. Kaarme

    Kaarme Maha Guru

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    I wouldn't find it overly hard to believe this, unfortunately, considering 7nm is so new and nobody else but TSMC is offering it. While the smartphone market is apparently showing some signs of losing its overheated state, it's not like it would disappear anywhere, meaning it will always eat a significant portion of the production capability. Other than that, both AMD's new CPU and GPU manufacturing will rely on TSMC, so it's not just Nvidia like in the old times. It's quite interesting we haven't heard anything about Nvidia's 7nm plans, but it could be they actively want to avoid a situation where they haven't got a reasonable stock to sell upon release, so they are taking their time. As it is, they've gone unchallenged with the 12nm process, so there's no hurry.

    I'm looking forward to see what Navi could offer me, so I don't like the delay, but such things happen.
     
  4. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Exactly, I have seen that "rumor" few days ago. And saw as some sites took and reposted it as rumor, other did not even state rumor.
    It is made up by them for clicks.
     

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    Netherwind Ancient Guru

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    Not the first time it's mentioned that Navi will only be offered in the mid-end segment and not high-end.
     
  6. Mpampis

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    I was thinking of buying a Vega VII card and go for a 4K monitor later, but it's available only on one shop here in Greece.
    Since the asking price is 959€, I think it would be better if I kept using my 1080p Freesync 144Hz monitor and waited for Navi.
     
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  7. HardwareCaps

    HardwareCaps Master Guru

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    Yikes, was waiting for a good budget GPU.... guess I'll have to wait a little longer.
    also the leaked specs seems suspicious... 8GB of GDDR6 on a 129$ product? how is that even possible with GDDR6 cost?
    I'm looking foward for Navi 12, 200$ for GTX 2060 performance sounds insane
     
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  8. fantaskarsef

    fantaskarsef Ancient Guru

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    Generally right, only that the factor that drives up the price for Vega VII to 959€ will be the same factor that drives up the price for a 300€ MSRP Navi card to something closer to 400€, eventually.
     
  9. BLEH!

    BLEH! Ancient Guru

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    Better for it to be right than a bodge.
     
  10. ezodagrom

    ezodagrom Master Guru

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    If I'm not mistaken, the "leaked" specs originally come from AdoredTV, right?
    I don't find him to be very trustworthy, he can be right about a few things, but he also can be wrong about some of the details, just like his RTX leaks.

    The RTX leaks, he was right about:
    - the names RTX 2080 and RTX 2070.
    - the codenames TU104, TU106, TU116.

    But he was wrong about:
    - RTX 2070 having 7GB of VRAM.
    - "GTX" 2060 using the TU116 core and having 5GB of VRAM.
    - the prices and performance estimates.
     
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  11. Mpampis

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    Well, I do expect the price to be around 450€ the first days.
    The thing is, I was considering going for a 4K system, but that would require for me to get a new PSU, the Vega VII and of course a 4K monitor. And the GPU's price made me realize that It's not actually worth it
     
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    Obviously there's no guarantee that the rumored specs, and prices, are correct.

    That said I don't find it insane, even if I understand you meant it in the best possible way. :)

    It's just there's been no motion on the midrange since, well 2016 pretty much. And Navi is likely at least 4-5 months away still. That level of price/performance is pretty par for the course historically speaking, after a generational leap anyway. It's our expectations that are pretty low given the GPU market the last three years.
     
  13. HardwareCaps

    HardwareCaps Master Guru

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    Actually Adored is the only one who listed the cheaper Navi 12 at 4GB of GDDR6 memory, which makes more sense.
     
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    HardwareCaps Master Guru

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    "insane" to me because 2018 and 2019 were miserable in terms of perf/dollar leaps. Vega wasn't anything special and Turing bumped up pricing significantly
    even with a grain of salt, a 200$ 120W part on 7nm with GDDR6 is very exciting IMO
     
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    If true, that's a little disappointing. Those prices look good and we know nothing about their wattage or capability to OC, but I'd still like to see something with a bit more "grunt". I was hoping the Radeon 7 would be more of an "interim flagship", where the real excitement would be found with Navi.

    But, the R7's Linux performance is in really good shape (actually better than Windows, surprisingly). If the RX 3090 basically ends up being the 8GB variant of the R7 with a hefty price reduction, I would consider getting that.
     

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    3080 8GB 349$ = 2070
    3070 8GB 249$ = 2060

    Im definitely skipping Turing and Vega and waiting for Navi. Until then i can focus on saving for Zen2.
     
  17. sykozis

    sykozis Ancient Guru

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    As much as I'd prefer to stick with AMD, I can't see this RX470 staying in my system until October....especially when my system upgrade window is mid-summer.... There's no point in me planning a system rebuild in mid-summer, if I can't complete it until October. So, either I go back to NVidia or scrap my plans to upgrade until next summer, leaving my RX470 in place for another 16+ months....

    Was really hoping to see Navi on the market in time, but such is life....
     
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    I think AMD will bea teasing Navi at Computex (end of May) and then releasing in autumn (end of October). So that is only 8 months away.
    I am sticking with my custom watercooled Vega64 through out 2019 and then wait for high end Navi, at the beginning of 2020.
     
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    Looking forward to these.
     
  20. Silva

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    Me, for that RX3070:
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