AMD Introduces Epyc server processors

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    AMD, along with its global ecosystem of server customers and partners, launched the EPYC 7000 series of high-performance datacenter processors. With up to 32 high-performance “Zen”...

    AMD Introduces Epyc server processors
     
  2. Silva

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    So Intel has 18 cores for $2000 USD ($111/core) and AMD 24 cores for $1700 USD ($71/core). The AMD 32 core would be $84/core...let the benchmarks roll!

    PS: The single configuration processors are even more interesting at $62.5/core for the 32 core model!

    Also, if EPYC 16 core is just $700, ThreadRiper is going to rip intel!
     
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  3. Lane

    Lane Ancient Guru

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    For clarify... ThreadRipper and Intel Skylake-SP (LGA2066) are " prosumer" lineup. not professional as the Xeon and Epyc.

    This Intel 18 cores ( who is not near to be released ) is not in the Xeon professional line but Skylake-SP.

    The AMD 24 cores ( so far ) is on the 1P socket EPYC "professional" server/workstation lineup. Chipset, motherboard, security ( encryption on memory ) etc will likely not be the same. ( note quite sure you can OC on Epyc lineup ).

    Now the 16cores TR should be around thoses prices, so yes, 750-800$ vs 2000$ for the 18cores Skylake-SP.. thas an impressive difference in price for 2 cores left.

    And i suspect we could see a CPU for goes against the 18 cores in future, maybe ( well not before every CPU on EPYC an TR are launched )
     
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    Yeah but intel's cores are clocked 1ghz higher so far at least.
     

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    Exascale Banned

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    Skylake-SP is NOT LGA 2066. It is LGA 3647 and is going to go up to around $10,000 for the top CPU. Skylake-SP is the new Xeon platform, which consolidates the E5 and E7 lines.

    From what i can tell, the AMD chips are going to be a great value by comparison.
     
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  6. Lane

    Lane Ancient Guru

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    After check, I 7900x is derivated of Skylake SP core as will be consumer I9 up to 18 cores.. under are Skylake X ( 7820 ec) http://www.anandtech.com/show/11550...ew-core-i9-7900x-i7-7820x-and-i7-7800x-tested

    But well, effectively better to stay on Skylake X for the " I9 series " and use Xeon parts for the other. Epyc goes against Xeon, not I9 series ( 10-12-14-16-18 cores ) ( x299 +LGA 2066 )

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/11542...by-lakex-time-line-preorders-and-availability



    Well, on 12-14-16 cores Threadrippers, clock could be higher ( base and turbo ).. Server 1P and 2P processors are in general clocked way lower.
     
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    Wow, I know I've commented how linear AMD's products are but I wasn't expecting it to be this linear. Epyc is basically just doubling up on everything from Threadripper, except you probably can't OC. Meanwhile, Threadripper is pretty much doubled-up on Ryzen, except it offers more PCIe lanes. Not that I'm complaining - the infinity fabric ought to really take advantage of all this memory bandwidth, though I'm sure latencies will be atrocious.

    Despite the cheesy name, Epyc is pretty accurate.

    EDIT:
    There's a quote from an Intel spokesperson who said:
    Gee, a bit hypocritical, eh? The Core2 Quad (and likely it's Xeon equivalent) did this very thing they're criticizing and Intel insisted it was fine. I also don't see how Epyc's design is a whole lot different than this:
    anandtech [dot] com/show/10158/the-intel-xeon-e5-v4-review/2
    It seems the greatest difference is Epyc has 4 separate dies whereas the Xeon is just one giant die.
     
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  8. Prince Valiant

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    Sounds like Intel is upset that some customers in their favorite price gouging environment might be pried loose.
     
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    I'm guessing from this then that AMD could've released more of the available PCIe links on the Ryzen die...
     
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    Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I could understand just having 16 lanes for the quad cores, but there ought to have been more for the bigger chips. Even if they supplied 24 lanes (where the APUs would then have 16 lanes), that'd have been enough for a triple-GPU configuration and shouldn't have affected yield that much.

    However, I'm not sure if the X390 or X399 chipsets offer any additional PCIe lanes.
     

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    At worst, it should perform like a dual-socket system (well, quad, and 8-socket in dual-socket systems) which don't tend to have a problem in server environments, so i'm not sure what intel is smoking.
     
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    AMDs stock is up 15% in the last two days. Intel is going to start lying even more than usual now.
     
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    The only problem i can see is in non-NUMA aware software and environement, but Intel speak about data center, who are NUMA aware ( like all professional environnement ..)

    Anandtech have make a good job at describe this question..
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/11551...7000-series-cpus-launched-and-epyc-analysis/2
     
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    Intels anti-competitive practices should be in full swing by now.
     
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    Judging from first impressions, also seems like these new CPU's are on the B2 stepping of Zen.
     

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    how do you figure?
     
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    Puzzled?

    e.g., TR 16c=pcie3 64 lanes, Epyc 32c = 128 lanes, so Ryzen should have 32 lanes, but only has 20 usable and 4 for the chipset.

    Where are the lost 8 lanes? Is amd saving them for the apu graphics?
     
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    "AMD, along with its global ecosystem of server customers"

    Its geekosystem :)
     

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