AMD Hires Bank to Arrange Sale or Pursue other Alternatives

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. partyface86

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    That doesn`t sound good

    This can be both bad news and good news. If AMD desides to sell and the company that buys them doesn`t want a role in the pc market, that leaves us with only Intel, and than Intel could price their processor as they whish. I don`t wanna even mention the graphics industry. Good news if the company that buys them desides to invest in the processor developement section, cuz I think the main reason for AMDs low performing processor is their budget in developement. They have lost a lot of ground after Intel introduced the Core 2 lineup, since then it seems that AMD can`t get back on it`s feet. Maybe just a miracle can save them.
     
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    SLI-756 Banned

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    That's what the last uber driver was all about then i guess, a big 'see ya'll laters!, Fun while it lasted!' type.
    Hope not though.
     
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    Neo Cyrus Ancient Guru

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    When Bulldozer was released we all saw this coming.
     

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    In what way did you see this comin`?
     
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    Black_ice_Spain Ancient Guru

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    IMO no, when one company controls the market, goverments create controls and such, thus limiting their price to a reasonable quantity.

    While i don't want AMD to disappear, but IMO a weak AMD for the enthusiast market, its even worse. Just see what intel did with 2500K's, they are like 20€ more expensive than on release.
     
  7. BLEH!

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    Eep, not good.
     
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    Ever since Core 2 Duo came up, Intel could already price their processors as they wished; AMD didn't really give meaningful competition aside from playing catch-up (much later).
    If it weren't for ATi (a.k.a. their graphics division) and their Arab backers, I have no idea how AMD would have survived this long.

    Intel will never price theirs to be too expensive because they do need to move the processors they manufactured.
    Making it too expensive means less buyers thus less products going off the shelves, and (non-gamer) people will soon realize that even a low-end Sandy Bridge i5 is actually overkill for their needs.
    Aside from gaming, folding, and rendering, which aren't exactly the majority of users will do, a measly i3 is enough.
    Heck, even those Pentium Gs are enough.

    What I'm afraid of isn't pricing, but rather a lack of innovation due to less competition.
    But that'd probably be of no concern right now, because AMD has been off Intel's radar for awhile.
    What Intel's been battling for some time is actually ARM.
    ARM is what has been keeping Intel busy to push TDP down while maintaining/improving performance.
     
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    AMD could just drop the CPU market, and instead start working on Havoc/physics a bit more. Nvidia is doing great in those areas - because they are exploring every possible rendering method.

    And just to think, I was going to upgrade to an all AMD based system.
     
  10. PhazeDelta1

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    I can pretty much guarantee Intel wont raise their prices anymore than they already are.
     

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    The Government may create controls and stuff, but they are useless at everything in general, let alone setting price levels.

    They will set pricing levels based on what advice? At least direct competition is directing at attracting customers rather than having a legal obligation not to rip the customers off too much.

    This is bad news regardless.
     
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    Guarantee based on what?

    They would be stupid as a company not to.
     
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    They'd actually be stupid as a company if they do.
     
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    Still, if the world remains with only one CPU manufacturer for PCs that won`t do us any good
     
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    I do think this is worrying news but i'm trying to look on the bright side. I doing truly hope that they will continue in the cpu market. Having no alternatives to Intel would make the market really boring for us enthuisiasts even if Intel didn't end up increasing prices.

    I still remember the days when I got into PCs and the Intel Pentiums were being demolished across the board by AMD. All that changed with Conroe.
     

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    You mean like the gouv controled MS while they had 95% marketshare ?
     
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    Based on what?

    Supply and demand. First rule.

    If there is no competition, why should you lower your prices. Prices are only lowered to either shift stock to make way for new stock or to compete with competitors.

    I do agree that from a customer moral sense, they would be shooting themselves in the foot potentially as customers may rebel, but rebel to what? No computer upgrades?

    The scenario should AMD leave the CPU market is that there is no alternate to Intel for the average consumer.
     
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    I don´t like to say this but i think we are witnessing the end of AMD at least as we know it.
    They simply can´t compete against Intel and the ARM market is already too crowded for them to make a significant difference. The only bright spot on their side is the gpu department but even that has a strong opposition from Nvidia.

    As for some other company buying them i really don´t see who might be interested. Aside from their GPU techs and patents they don´t seem to have much too offer because no one wants a x86 to compete against Intel, with the possible exception of Nvidia!?... (I know this is almost impossible but it´s the only company occurring to me that could be interested on such licenses...). They could sell the gpu department but even the candidates ofr that are scarce.

    The way i see it they may be preparing to stop producing cpus directly and move on to be a company like ARM, selling only cpus and gpus designs or something like that.

    I really hope they survive this phase but i wouldn´t bet on it...
     
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  19. MonstroMart

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    AMD should sell the cpu part to nVidia and the gpu part to intel ;)
     
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    AMD just needs to last out long enough for their heterogeneous CPU/GPU architecture to come to life. I doubt that they'd drop completely out, they would most likely keep their GPU business at least (which would still include this heterogeneous architecture as long as they can keep their x86 licence).
     

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