AMD Gives Statement on the PCI-Express Overcurrent Problems

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  1. airbud7

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    it is a P7P55-LX LGA1156../ 6 years old

    Edit: Clouseau^ beat me to it...
     
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  2. Clouseau

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    Hit me over the head with a brick, apparently on the ignore list.
     
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    I am sorry but this was recipe for disaster and AMD should test this to make sure everything is right. this not the kind publicity/issue amd needs they having enough of issues


    For the price those cards are nice, but not if those card kill boards cause they pulling more then 75 watts from the slots kill boards that cost just as much if not more.
     
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    Prototyping, hardware testing and a platform for driver development.

    Next to a Founders Edition we now have a RX480 Fumbled Edition.
     

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    I read this and just instantly respected it.

    I always feel the same way generally.
     
  6. Loophole35

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    I'm curious if this is limited to the 8GB or is the 4GB affected. Every instance of "proof" I've seen is 8GB.
     
  7. __hollywood|meo

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    good man

    im really starting to wonder about all this.
     
  8. PhazeDelta1

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    Alright. After reading a few articles on this matter, I have realized a few things.

    1. AMD intentionally tried to skirt pci-e certification and hoped no one would notice

    2. Didn't test the cards or knew about the issue and decided to send the cards to reviewers anyways

    3. Has incompetent engineers.

    4. All of the above.

    I honestly don't know which is worse. I find it funny the response they gave made it seem like they were just as surprised about it as we were. If I had my tinfoil hat, i could really have some fun.
     
  9. HeavyHemi

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    I agree. I think it was a high resistance on the 24 pin plug to socket interface that was the issue.
     
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    Good Question I was wondering about that myself. Also it might be possible that 8GB versions of the card might need more power to support the extra 4GB of VRAM.
     
  12. Stormyandcold

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    It should only be a few watts difference though.
     
  13. Fender178

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    I wonder if there are any modern boards such as Z87 and above that have suffered from the save overcurrent of the PCI-E slot as the older boards from the 1st and 2nd generation Core i series cpus. Plus I wonder if there were any higher end AMD boards such as 970 and 990 that suffered from this same problem I know the one YouTuber said that he had an older FM2 board with an old AMD athlon x4 6xx series CPU and it suffered from that problem.

    In reality how new of a board do you need to purchase to avoid this issue?
     
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    Man, all this backseat electrical engineering is amazing. It's wonder you all don't all work at AMD already with all this knowledge.

    Guys, AMD themselves said they've found the problem and that they will fix it. Why are some people in denial still? Man, the way some people are arguing here is like a religion, where there bible story can do no wrong:

    [​IMG]

    Seriously, these are complicated as hell objects, bugs and problems are bound to happen, and it does:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug
    http://wiki.osdev.org/CPU_Bugs#Intel
    https://www.techpowerup.com/222895/...edition-owners-complain-of-fan-revving-issues

    **** happens, stop freaking pretending it doesn't exist; it's childish.
     
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    There is also the chance it's none of the above and simply the auto-voltage regulator was more zealous than it should. It seems like it's not a global isse after all.
     

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    I actually cancelled my order just to be cautious and wait on the sidelines until everything is cleared up. If the driver/firmware update does reduce performance then I'll simply order the 4gb version.
     
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    Who's pretending the issue does not exist? I have said from the beginning that one needs to wait for AMD's response. Then I stated that they addressed the issue. The hanging squad kept going. Follow the conversation all the way through. Did you miss the fact that I said the issue was a dead horse already? Did you also miss, why this conversation was still going on, what good will it do? To what avail? Only person(s) it appears that has/have an issue still...

    Coming in in the middle of the conversation without following it all the way through and think one has a handle on it is a recipe for disaster every time.
     
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    Have you met vase?
     
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    Some manufacturers, like Gigabyte, also provide a PCI-E power connector on their motherboards to provide additional power for demanding graphics cards, so I don't believe this is really a new issue.
     
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    Im Still thinking that this can't be fixed at the software level aka drivers but I think there could be a workaround in a form of a BIOS update. Re-tweak the Power limit so it has more voltage if it needs it. I have read other postings where some other Guru3d members flashed their cards with a BIOS that had a voltage tweak for higher overclocks and maybe this could work for the RX 480 by increasing the amount of voltage of the card.
     

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