AMD delayed Ryzen 9 3950X launch due to unsatisfactory clock speeds?

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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  2. I would really like to have one of these....I'd take 4.4
     
  3. nizzen

    nizzen Maha Guru

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    My 3900x is reaching max boost in "idle", but if it's under load of any kind, the max singlecoreboost is way lower. Max boost is like 2ms

    Using ABBA 2.1 bios with Asrock x570.
     
  4. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    I did some testing the other day on 3700X but it was fine really. ASrock v1.7 ABBA BIOS.

    Can you try a 1 thread Cinebench run and monitor with HWinfo?

    Btw you need to cover your bases when testing, nothing running in the background and remove your LAN cable so that Windows isn't dong stuff in the background that can invoke threading.
     

  5. yeeeeman

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    3900X is already reaching 4.7Ghz for some users on ABBA bios, so no problem for them to get 4.7Ghz for 3950x. Hence this news is not relevant...
    We know from multiple sources and official announcements that TSMC has troubles keeping up with demand so 3950X not launching now is just common sense. It would have been a paper launch.
     
  6. Kaarme

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    I wonder what this refers to. I just recall a Digitimes sourced news from a week ago, saying: "The lead time for production of 7nm chips at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) has extended to nearly six months from the previous two months because of strong demand, according to industry sources." In other words, the production lines are so full that TSMC will tell you to come back in six months if you need something made. So, if AMD wanted more stuff than previous agreed (for example because they aren't getting as large a portion of high clocking units as they expected), it's possible TSMC simply can't help them at all without a considerable delay.
     
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    RooiKreef Master Guru

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    The first time I heard about the delay of the 3950X the first thing that came to my mind was that they have issues reaching the clock speeds. I guess my thought was correct then, or was it?
     
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    - or - if in doubt press the "update firmware" button .;)
     
  9. Error8

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    This whole PBO/self boost system from AMD seems flawed. I'm keeping my 3700X @ 4.3 ghz all time at a very low 1.25 V. I didn't even try it to take it lower. I'm getting better temps, both idle and load and better scores in all the benchmarks I've tried.
    With PBO or stock settings, the CPU voltage goes as far as 1.5 V and it's hotter, performs worst and has like 4.1 ghz maximum all cores boost and that with the beefiest air cooler on the market.
     
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    Any recommended software or monitoring tool to see the boost speed of a CPU for testing purposes? I'll be doing the firmware update this weekend and I'd like to do a before and after test.
     

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    ryzen master.
     
  12. Ziffer

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    Am I the only one thinking, that AMD could have released a 3920X (for example) with 16c/32t and a max boost clock of 4,4-4,5 GHz for 600-675$, which will be sold out in days? If they really have issues with clock speeds, they could have easily done that, mentioning something like, ok we will delay 3950X, but in order to satisfy (or whatever sweetened version they come with) enthusiasts we will introduce bla bla and so on. Just my thought on this.
     
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    HWiNFRO64 Works just fine.

    if you are gaming STOCK would work just better. My 3900x gets 4.550 on most games and typically 4.275 / 4.30 across all cores in all games. but almost half of the CPU clock over 4.4ghz
     
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    Try single threaded apps.

    Here is my 3800X on AB BIOS
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    "To date, however, there has been no word given as to what the reason is behind the delay. We did ask, but there was no answer to that question."

    That is the ONLY TRUE THING written. The rest was all BS.
     

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    AC Odiseey gets a better score with 4.3 ghz OC, then with STOCK/PBO. Maximum clock achieved with my CPU single threaded is 4.375 ghz. I prefer to loose those extra 75 mhz for lower temperature and voltage really. Probably I'm loosing like 1 fps in some situations, so I don't care.
     
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    That sucks!!! I was patiently waiting to get the 3950X so I can build my first Ryzen PC but I'm getting disappointed from you AMD
     
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    To me this sounds just like a Tabloid story with missing facts and all on hearsay.
    A story I think you shouldn't be publishing.

    On another note, I heard AMD were delaying it because they were all drunk and forgot about actually making this processor - source from inside AMD's headquaters.
     
  19. Brasky

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    Good, delay it rather than push out a faulty product. This should be the case for all things.
     
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    You can't even buy a 3900X anywhere right now, it is not surprising a 3950X which needs even better bins is not doable yet. I think their initial batches didn't bin as well as they were expecting.
     

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