AMD could be developing a 24-core Ryzen 9 7950X CPU with a TDP of 170 W.

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    nizzen Ancient Guru

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    Perfect upgrade for 5950x on my workstation!

    Can't wait to try it :cool:
     
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    I'll wait a few generations before I decide to upgrade. I'll most likely replace my 3800X with a 5x00X first, to get a relatively cheap upgrade. Looking at the current pricing over here, a 5900X might be the best bang for the buck (only 30 euros more expensive than the 5800X).

    And when I'm ready to upgrade I'll have to see what the offerings of Intel and AMD are at the time and which one would be the preferred route to take.
     
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    Going from 3800x to 7800x sounds even better, just wait for it. Im doing the same :p
     
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    Of course it would be better, but it would also require a new mobo and RAM.
     
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    I don't think I need a new CPU just yet, not for what I do on my PC. Though I'm not gonna lie, this will be insanely tempting for no other reason than its existence.
     
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    Honestly a 24 core CPU makes more sense than a 16 core from a business standpoint. You save the chiplets with working 8 cores for server dies, while lowering the heat output for gaming CPUs by using 6 core chiplets and spreading them out instead of 8 cores (assuming AMD will use 4 chiplets of 6 cores each instead of 3 chiplets of 8 cores).

    Besides, 4 more working cores are hardly enough to justify going from the 5900x to the 5950x. Doubling the amount of cores, however, could allow AMD to sell $1000 cpus on the mainstream platform.
     
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    I personally couldn't care less about having 24 cores in a desktop PC, but what I definitely do like is that it means lower-end models will most likely become a lot cheaper and more efficient. Sure will be nice if 8c/16t can be bought for less than $200.
     
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    Sure, but that would require me to update the motherboard and RAM as well, seeing as it will need a new socket type and DDR5. So I can justify a processor upgrade now, but a full system update with expensive new RAM is something I can postpone until after the DDR5 prices and performance have improved.

    And maybe at that time we are looking at 9800x :cool:
     
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    New mobo and RAM is the main point here.
    But always bigger "numbers" is the best after all
     

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    so that 8600x can beat it again
    isn't progress just beautiful
     
  12. IchimA

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    So this is AM5 ?
     
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    Most likely called AM5
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    I have believed this for a long time now. AMD has ever so slowly been edging their way back into the premium CPU market.

    Ryzen 1000 series was them righting wrongs and getting onto the right path ($500 cpu beating a $1000 cpu)
    Ryzen 2000 series was them keeping ryzen on peoples minds and building a brand
    Ryzen 3000 series was them building brand loyalty, showing true evolution on the same platform and showing their technology scaled
    Ryzen 5000 series was them pushing for the performance crown, allowing them to finally charge a little more for their work
    Ryzen 7000 series will be AMD's crowning moment to be once again a premium CPU brand and finally get back to that $1000 mainline CPU price tag.

    Just get ready to be paying $500 for a 6/12 core CPU, $600 for an 8/16 core, $700 for a 12/24 core, $800 for a 16/32 core, and $999 for a 24/48 core (if not more for X variants). Probably resurrecting Athlon naming for lower end products with less cache, no SMT, smaller iGPU's, etc to fill the gap left at the bottom under the $300 price ranges.

    This could also be the reason why AMD seemingly killed off Threadripper, because their plan was to start charging a lot more for their mainline desktop products.
     

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    I don't buy into a $500 6 core.
    $500 8 core, yes.
     
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    The thing that Intel will have to contend with is the all-important Performance Per Watt metric in the server space, which is where the big money is. So far, Alder Lake consumes a lot more power than Zen3 in terms of the general processing server markets, where EPYC rules the roost these days. Milan-X is very compelling and has been widely adopted, and very quickly, too, as it's a drop-in replacement. But I have a suspicion that Zen4 will be a bit different in architecture from Zen3, and so I expect a definite IPC uplift that will be more than merely a clock jump for a Zen3 CPU running faster because of higher clocks occasioned by a smaller manufacturing process. It's going to be interesting later this year, no doubt about that! Lisa Su has openly stated more than once this year that she expects this year to be AMD's best year yet, and she's always been right on the money in that regard. If Intel stays with a monolithic CPU design for its upcoming server CPUs I think it will be tough for them to compete there, once again.
     
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    Just me guessing what I think AMD might do this coming generation.

    Thinking about it, something like this seems more plausible.

    Ryzen 7600 6c/6t $299
    Ryzen 7600XT 6c/12t $399
    Ryzen 7700XT 8c/16t $499
    Ryzen 7800XT 12c/16t $599
    Ryzen 7900XT 16c/32t $699
    Ryzen 7950XT 24c/48t $799
    Ryzen 7950XT3D 24c/48t $999 (possibly even over $1k for 3D stacked version)

    All having boost clocks of at least 5GHz, IPC of around 20-25% faster than Zen3. With the 7950XT3D hitting near 30% faster IPC.
     
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    Not going to happen.

    I'd kiss my long dead grandmother if that were to happen thats how much i have zero faith in your prediction

    This i see as more plausible, though i dont expect 8 cores to cost $500, at least not the lowest end one. But i coule be wrong, it took them a long time to release a 5000 series lower cost 8 core
     
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    Seeing how TSMC is raising its prices by up to 20%, I imagine AMD won't feel the need to avoid raising its own prices. We all know Intel isn't shy about charging a lot as well. It's not a cartel, but when you have (only) two players who are both very eager to increase the general profit margins of their products, it will work the same as a cartel.
     

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