AMD Catalyst 15.5 Beta Driver for Windows OS out now

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Drivers Section' started by AMDMatt, May 29, 2015.

  1. Major Melchett

    Major Melchett Ancient Guru

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    Yeah i don't quite get the "enough said", i mean it didn't counter anything at all in your post (you even agreed that VSR is the superior method of downsamping).

    VSR can be the greatest downsampling solution ever created, but like you I'd rather have the slightly inferior (DSR) solution supporting loads of cards over the superior (VSR) solution supporting hardly any cards - or even better that that, I'd prefer having both of them as solutions so a lot more AMD cards would get driver level downsampling support.
     
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  2. sammarbella

    sammarbella Ancient Guru

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    I PERFECTLY get his "enough said" as "nothing to said" because he link us another article exposing the well know "superiority" of very rare VSR 4K who has ONLY one middle level GPU fully supported.

    If you take a look to the test in the article there is no 4K res comparision and for a good reason, there is no point comparing at 4K VSR a single AMD GPU to Nvidia DSR 35 GPU alternatives. :D

    My only hope for AMD downsampling is Durante could be able to do something for DX12 as a whole as he did specifically for DX11 "Pillars of Eternity"

    I could play this game at 5K (and many others at 8K and even 12K) downsampled to 1080p even without CFX support in game with his tool GeDoSaTo; a DX9 downsampling solution who allows users to select ANY custom resolution to downsample from.
     
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  3. WarDocsRevenge

    WarDocsRevenge Master Guru

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    that was meant for the other moron but your post had it's fill of stupid also but with all the extra spaces between random crap i lost interest in your bs sorry and crossfire willl never matter to me unless it's fixed for good and remains useless unless i am using firepro cards for my work which i almost have enough to buy 3 of them so ya 4k vsr does rock sorry you can't do it haha
     
  4. sammarbella

    sammarbella Ancient Guru

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    "moron,"stupid","random crap" and "bs" are all your STRONG ARGUMENTS to reply a non insulting request for a proper AMD support for the GPUs i bought.

    Thanks to expose it clearly for everybody knowledge. :)

    Edit: Please read the forum rules it seems you forgot (or didn't know) that the insults are against them...

    http://forums.guru3d.com/announcement.php?f=46

    Specifically the title "War, politics and oil threads"
     
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  5. morbias

    morbias Don TazeMeBro Staff Member

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    Guys, let's just step back and get some perspective here, the discussion is getting pretty heated for what is actually something quite trivial!

    As mentioned above, insulting other members is not acceptable behaviour on these forums so please refrain from doing so in future. Infractions or bans will ensue unless everyone treats eachother with respect; afterall, you don't have to insult someone to disagree with them.
     
  6. sammarbella

    sammarbella Ancient Guru

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    I agree in your remarks about insults and disrespect.

    You will not find a single insult or disrespect in my near 1000 posts in this forum even when i was repeatidely insulted or mocked.

    I don't think the lack of support from AMD in his own added features trivial.
     
  7. theoneofgod

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    Kepler fix has been made for NVIDIA GPU's: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=399569
    So those using that as bait against people criticizing AMD, you can no longer do it :)

    I got 2FPS increase with 15.5 so I guess I can't complain too much.

    Code:
        Supports G-SYNC technology in windowed mode. (Supported for 2-way SLI, but not 3-way or 4-way.)
        Offers both G-SYNC (V-SYNC on) and G-SYNC (V-SYNC off) options.
        Adds support for Ultra-Low Motion Blur (ULMB) in the NVIDIA Control Panel.
        Provides Dynamic Super Resolution (DSR) for notebooks with discrete GeForce GPUs, Fermi-based and above.
        Implements optimizations and bug fixes that provide increased performance for Kepler-based GPUs.
    
    :( Still here with no official VSR...
     
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  8. sammarbella

    sammarbella Ancient Guru

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    What we need now is better AMD drivers for DX12/W10.

    W10 and AMD radeon FURY (390X) are to be released in a few weeks but Nvidia 980Ti had just been released and is all over the internet in reviews and articles.

    AMD needs to clearly improve his drivers support to have a change to survive in the GPU market.

    Better hardware by itself is not enough to win this "war".

    Maybe this is the last battle of this "war" for AMD if it lost the DX12 challenge.

    Nvidia monopoly is the worst scenario for us gaming enthusiasts. :(
     
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  9. oGow89

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    I have yet to know why that man is so angry with me, when clearly i just want a better official support for my amd gpu and not have to resort to modded drivers just to get 1-2 fps more. You can read for yourself on the nvidia side of the forum of people being happy gaining up to 10 fps even on gtx 600 series. Amd solution to the problem is to force reduce tessellation and quality via CCC, while advertising up to 10% fps gain on single r9 and r7 gpus. They even used ''up to'' to clear their conscious. I ain't got beef with no one, but i just feel like i paid for a product that eventually would turn useless. And oh trust me if i could make the switch i would do it in a heart beat, i just don't have the money, even if i sell my current gpu, which probably no one wants to buy anymore. So i am stuck with a company that i believed in for the last 15 years, and when i first purchased a high end gpu for the first time, i end up with a card that at times fails to perform like a middle class gpu due to poor drivers. And anyone who complains, is instantly a troll or some fanboy. You know what, maybe nvidia should send few boys to teach amd how to make a proper driver. A freaking laptop can now do downsampling... Quality or not, go ask the owners of the r9 280x how they feel, or the r9 295x2 if his card actually delivers.
     
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    Interesting point. There don't seem to be any modded driver threads in the Nvidia drivers forum other than one(s) related to adding support for legacy cards. I guess the R9 290 is already a legacy product in AMD's eyes.
     

  11. PrMinisterGR

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    You should have said that earlier :p
    I'm gonna try it a bit, that sounds like a huge gain.

    Not really. There is something on the kernel level with Windows 10. A lot of people report huge gains with exactly the same driver on Windows 10. I wonder if NVIDIA users get the same actually.

    I would have switched already, I'm just waiting for that RTM by the end of June.

    A developer made a choice to use a piece of HARDWARE that they knew that a large part of their customers didn't have. NVIDIA themselves and AMD went for compute performance, instead of tesselation. There is no magic driver that will put tesselators in a 780ti or a 290x, sorry. That's why HairWorks in its whole is a scumbag thing to do. Unless you understand that, there is nothing we can do to start fixing it.
    Apart from that, constant whining is unproductive. There are a lot of people in here who have legitimate grudges, and yet they try to give something back, run a test, link an article. Let us not devolve into crying infants, please.
     
  12. Major Melchett

    Major Melchett Ancient Guru

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    This is something I'm curious on to, i get an easy 20% performance increase in Project Cars (for example) using the same drivers just by running it on Windows 10 instead of Windows 8.1, this is a great increase just for changing to the newer OS.

    I am really curious to see if this sort of increase is purely AMD related or if Nvidia users get a similar increase in performance, its quite a difference and I'm hoping it bodes well for the switch to Windows 10 on the gaming front even when not using DX12.
     
  13. PrMinisterGR

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    I can't seem to find anything about NVIDIA and Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 performance. I'll take a bet and say that the difference is not so great (yet at least).
     
  14. sammarbella

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    Nvidia is also starting from a different point in DX11 performance where they still have a HUGE advantage.

    AMD is somewhat closing this gap.

    DX12 will be a different story (i hope).
     
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    Doesn't that win10 advantage on same drivers come straight from WDDM 2.0 versus 1.1/1.3 over win 7 and 8.1?

    Was supposed to make huge difference
     

  16. theoneofgod

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    The drivers in general are better (2.0/1.3).
     
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    Same problems like in 15.4 for me - flash crashes in google chrome and firefox and random in desktop driver crashes - "driver was recovered".
     
  18. Dygaza

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    I ment the difference on same drivers comes from WDDM version. Johan Anderson from Dice said WDDM 2.0 helps even mantle/vulkan, so should get some effect to dx11 aswell.

    https://twitter.com/adamsyren1/status/585794784830300160

    So perhaps extra dx11 speed under w10 comes from better memory management from WDDM 2.0 (which ofc is part of kernel)

    edit. kernel part addition
     
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  19. theoneofgod

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    In the overhead test I don't see any difference with modded drivers for 8.1 and 10.
     
  20. Dygaza

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    There is difference between win7 and win 8.1 though. I'm sure there are other way to get more performance than just overhead. Would need to hear info about this from some specialist. But surely 2.0 ain't there just for fun.
     

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