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AMD Catalyst 14.9.2 BETA (14.301.1006.0 October 9)

Discussion in 'Videocards - AMD Radeon Catalyst Drivers Section' started by garikfox, Oct 24, 2014.

  1. The Mac

    The Mac Ancient Guru

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    where the heck is the option to enable mantle?

    i cant find it anywhere...
     
  2. theoneofgod

    theoneofgod Ancient Guru

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    In general or in a game? You don't "enable" it, it just works. All games seem to do this differently. Sniper Elite 3 is done through the launcher. Beyond Earth has two .exe's, one for DX11 and another for Mantle. BF4 has the option in video settings.
     
  3. FunkyMike

    FunkyMike Master Guru

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    They have removed all mention of the 5xxx and 6xxxm models from their website. Have been trying to get some old technical specs on some 6xxx devices without luck. It would be a great shame if they move them into "legacy" especially seeing as how only recently they "fixed" the biggest problems related to switching.
     
  4. shankly1985

    shankly1985 Master Guru

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    Guys things dont stay new for ever. I expect everything AMD could do for them line up is already done.
     

  5. Seren

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    It's been 4 years and 2 days since the 6000 release, honestly it really seems like they are planning it being that close to exactly 4 years.
    I still think 4 is too little though...
     
  6. RzrTrek

    RzrTrek Ancient Guru

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    If that's the case then maybe it's time for me to switch over to Nvidia considering I'm still able to update my "legacy" GeForce 9500 GS (2008) drivers!
     
  7. theoneofgod

    theoneofgod Ancient Guru

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    So 5xxx and 6xxx cards no longer have drivers?
     
  8. Espionage724

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    Or, move onto a superior platform (Linux) :p Nothing stops updates on older hardware; I think just recently there was something done for UVD on either 2xxx or 3xxx hardware for the open-source drivers.

    But yeah; given how old the architecture is for non-GCN hardware; I'm certain it's about as-optimized as it's going to get, for the most part anyway.

    Almost certain NVIDIA's the same way. Sure, their newer driver packages may support older hardware, but do you really see performance gains on such hardware?

    On another note, how do these drivers fair compared to the OpenCL 2.0 ones? Looks like the D3D and OGL versions on these drivers are older, along with the driver branch.
     
  9. sidspacewalker

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    Tested and I can confirm that this driver has had no effect on the Mantle stuttering in Battlefield 4. DX11 still runs smoother with framedrops in the larger maps. This framedrop is not solved by reducing settings, lowering resolution.
     
  10. shadow_craft

    shadow_craft Member Guru

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    I am glad they are aware of this issue, atm Dx11 is smoother in Civ:BE for zooming, otherwise it seems to run better.

    Never had an issue with Mantle in Bf4
     

  11. FunkyMike

    FunkyMike Master Guru

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    I also have an older Pavilion with the same or similar Nvidia card (9xxx GS) and it still supports updates!


    The devices are still supported! Although the switching tab needs modding in.

    We just hope that AMD doesn't drop future support.
     
  12. mtdew332

    mtdew332 Member Guru

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    People always tell others that crap "the older GPUs are as optimized as they are gonna get"...So there is no need for new drivers for the older hardware anyway...WTF?
    Do you even have any clue why we constantly get new driver updates that have game specific profiles & optimizations/fixes for the latest current games?
    So you just leave those customers with slightly older GPUs with no new/current driver support at ALL , which would include CURRENT GAME SPECIFIC optimizations!

    That's BS......then you may as well at least be HONEST and put expiration date stickers on the GPUs for customers when they buy them then, so they know exactly what they're buying.

    And NO....Nvidia isn't the same way.....YES ,you DO see game specific optimizations working on older hardware when installing the latest Nvidia drivers.
    I can throw any of my old Nvidia GPUs i have lying here in my closet in any one of my PCs and get the benefit of the latest drivers.... (ie:I have an old GTX 470, 8800GTX & GTX 260 here, that all can be used as backup GPUs at any time if needed using Nvidias latest drivers)

    Point being, driver support/game optimizations should last until the hardware itself is no longer capable of any kind of 3D gaming.
    It should be the hardware capabilities itself that determine when a GPU is no longer relevant....NOT driver support!
    That's called supporting ALL your customers.....not everyone upgrades GPUs as often as some of us do.
     
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  13. the9quad

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    AMD Beta 14.9.2 results for BF4 DX 11 vs Mantle...
    All done 2560x1440 on Ultra:
    60 second run on test island so network and players wouldn't effect the run. I also tried to run through it in the same pattern, so I am not just standing still.
    No I do not pull 200+ fps for >90% of the time while playing on 64 man servers,lol.

    DX11 AVERAGE FRAMERATE: 205.3 FPS

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    MANTLE AVERAGE FRAMERATE: 222.7 FPS
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    A couple pretty big spikes on mantle that are't present in DX11, and DX11 felt smoother to me. Even though I am above 200 fps 97% of the time with mantle (and only 66% of the time in dx11), those spikes are jarring as heck. What you cant see in the chart is the spikes in Mantle go up to 80ms so we are talking 200fps+ all the way down to 13 FPS......so that still needs fixed. It feels liek you just hit a brick wall when it happens. The DX11 spikes are to 80+ fps and they aren't really noticeable.

    On a positive note, if they smooth things out, it looks like I would gain ~10% performance over DX11 if it wasn't for those stutters. And you can see mantle is pretty tight except for those two big spikes, but holy smokes they are huge.

    NOTE-The graphs are behind spoilers because they are big pics. I am thoughtful sometimes..
     
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  14. The Mac

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    there is no launcher, it just goes.

    there is no option in the video settings to change it, and fraps is fully functional in game, so no mantle...

    wtf...

    i played for a good 3 hours on dx...pretty sweet..

    id like mantle though...
     
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    Windows 8.1 x64 version installed on windows 10 technical preview x64 without issues. Will play some games later and report any issues.
     

  16. Mareak

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    THANK YOU!! downloading it now!! Hope this driver fix BF4 stuttering as well!! lets give it a go!
     
  17. kakarot

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    Well this is a first. The driver is not even showing up on the list during install so they are no go. Everything else is available except for the driver:bang:

    Edit -Actually these are missing when I try custom install;
    Display driver
    hdmi audio driver
    ACP application

    Back to .1 beta
     
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  18. Fox2232

    Fox2232 Ancient Guru

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    Mantle is not about higher GPU performance over DX, it is about much higher CPU performance. To allow systems with weaker CPUs to run strong GPUs fully utilized.

    What you show is just nice bonus since your CPU is not in category "Choking, Mantle please help!"
     
  19. tiptop

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    Umm, what are you talking about? Just visited the AMD site, and all the links to their HD 6000 and HD 5000 series (and their specs) are there, e.g.: Products We Design > Desktop Graphics > HD 6000 Series > AMD Radeon™ HD 6970 Graphics > Specs.

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    Oh really?! Are you sure? Like TOTALLY sure? Because your beautiful NVIDIA dropped its support of all GPUs older than a 400 series in July 2014. Their latest WHQL drivers (344.48) have no mention of 8800 GTX or GTX 260.

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  20. crisrodrigues

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    Anyone tried crossfire in Shadow of Mordor with this driver? Here I can play some minutes just fine, then it crashes the computer.
     

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