AMD brings Mantle to Sid Meier Civilization Beyond Earth

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  1. Hilbert Hagedoorn

    Hilbert Hagedoorn Don Vito Corleone Staff Member

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    Their internal benchmark was done with a driver that didn't support Civ BE.
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/8640/benchmarked-civilization-beyond-earth/2
     
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    I actually kinda wish the anandtech benchmark had an APU on Mantle tested as well. It would be interesting to see if it would actually make the game playable on low end hardware. I've built a lot of machines recently with FM2/FM2+ CPU's.
     
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    Me neither... with this article, actually the 290X with mantle still doesn't surpass the 980 average fps, not even at 3840x2160. Yes, minimum framerates are higher. But no average fps win for the 290X on mantle, and no 8xMSAA tested in this review.
     
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    While mantle works fine on my main rig, I can't get past the "click to continue" page using it on my 2nd pc. The mouse cursor just doesn't respond while the game is active. It may have to do with the 1080p issues with HDMI connected tv's/monitors. DX11 works fine.
     
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    Agreed. Considering Mantle is designed to lower CPU overheard, using a high-end i7 is really almost pointless. The only reason it isn't completely pointless is because it did still yield better results.

    Also, the reviewer for that article is blatantly showing bias toward nvidia.
     
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    wait, by 1 fps ? that's groundbreaking
     
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    Anyone play this with mantle on a 2GB card? I am wondering if it has the same additional vRAM usage as it does with BF4 (making it useless unless you are ok with medium textures).
     
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    Theres no need for Mantle, they should have just tried to get Dx11 running better like Nvidia, as its walloping Mantle.
     

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    For some reason, when using Mantle and zooming into the terrain, it is not smooth, its like the frames are dropping.....

    DX11 version doesn't suffer from this, Mantle works great in BF4 for me.
     
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    Anyone know how to check fps using mantle?
     
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    I'm gonna be called a fanboy, I'm certain. But because of stuff like this I'm less and less tempted to buy AMD. And I cannot find any benchmark that shows the 290x on top. Anyone care to share with me please?
     
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    Does it matter? Anandtech paints the two top end chips at 3fps apart at insanely high settings yet you can get a 290x for $330 vs $550 for 980. Given the memory constraints on the 980 I don't even doubt 290x pulls ahead at 8x, but regardless who cares? It's not like I need 120fps+ for civ. Power/Noise is the only other factor.

    I want to see APU benchmarks with Mantle for this game.
     

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    I was gonna say it's perfectly possible, but I realized it doesn't even matter. It's 1 fps. The deal is that the 290x is cheaper, but is outperformed by the 980 in other games. Exclusively concerning this game, it's a fantastic deal.

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    We were replying at the same time. I agree.
     
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    This right here, I have no doubt mantle influenced nvidia`s decision to put out the performance drivers but the performance drivers cover all games and dx11 cards not a very select few games and vga`s.
     
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    A 290X/980 is overkill for this game anyways, and here there seems to be a discussion about less than 5fps difference. Just sayin'.
     
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    Turn based strategy - not the best case usage, but I'll take it since it's "free".
    Not as free as most of use think, but still...The performance is really good and smooth.

    How about EQAA vs MSAA?
    Freaking weird they would implement EQAA as mandatory and not even compare it with MSAA.

    AMD spends time and money to implement Mantle(EQAA) and the best they can compe up with is 2k words blog entry

    It's not that hard. This is how you make a presentation

    Like this

    Not this:

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    Anyone with benchmarks with APU/Low end hardware? Would be much more interesting to see than the 4fps difference between a 290x and a 290x with mantle on.
     

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