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AMD Announces Ryzen 7 3700X, 3800X and Ryzen 9 3900X

Discussion in 'Frontpage news' started by Hilbert Hagedoorn, May 27, 2019.

  1. Trihy

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    Only problem for small builds (at least matx) is that i/o s**ks bad. Hope some manufacturer could do decent matx x570 boards. With decent I mean 4 or 5 fan connectors, dual m2, 8 usb on the back, 3.1, etc.
     
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    I think AMD might hold something up on their sleeves. The 5Ghz boost was promised and maybe it will come on some "Black Edition" Ryzen3000 release.
     
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    3700X = 9700K and 3800X = 9900K in gaming/single thread performance. That is absolutely fantastic. I wait for reviews, upcoming motherboards and will be looking for a 3600/X/3700X.

    It's also nice to have the fans back like on Zen+ models.
     
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    My, how the tables have turned. This looks to be AMDs Core 2 Duo moment that Intel pulled back in 2006 which entirely upset the CPU market. Quite happy that they've finally done it. No one wants a perpetual market leader. Intel now have a double whammy, they have to contend with the security issues affecting their CPUs as well. The market will be savage with them over the next year at least.
     
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    For those on a X370 and X350.

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    k3vst3r Ancient Guru

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    My gut feeling is 16 core parts are TR 3950x, 3970x and 3990x with 5ghz boost version.
     
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    Your IPC is laughable.
     
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    unfortunatly it seems so :( damnit if they were 5ghz capable out the box i wouldn't have to wait for benchmarks and just order a mobo and continue planning, now i gotta wait for reviews to see if it's still the best option.

    (i play both new and old games so wile the IPC gain is nice not sure it's enough to make 4.6 compete with 5.0... i hope it can or that the cpu's have some easily achievable headroom to march towards 5ghz)

    also i've found the amd boards a bit ugly compared to the intel boards (usually not a dealbreaker but my pc nowadays sits ontop of my desk and my next case is glass front and side so......i'll be seeing it a lot), that's finally fixed with the x570 boards and now they got a 40mm fan on the southbridge/chipset/whatever it's called these days, if that thing makes any noise at all another dealbreaker as i don't want to have to get yet another water block to shut something up.
     
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    Ebay is about to be flooded with cheap older i5's / i7's ^^
     
  10. nevcairiel

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    Is that even confirmed? It would be sort of smart to use 2 harvested dies with 4 active cores for an 8-core CPU, instead of requiring fully functional 8-core dies.
     

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    What already? You IPC is exactly same at 1GHz, 4GHz, or 5GHz. It won't change. The only thing that would change it would be disabling some stuff in the BIOS and installing the nice new microcodes that patch the thousand security holes in the Intel CPUs.

    Don't make your high school's physics teacher cry with your comments, man.
     
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    AM4 motherboard saves them money unless they upgrade that too. The urge to upgrade is always there regardless of blue or red.
     
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    Actually, his IPC is probably lower at 5.2GHz than on stock or lower clock due to memory bandwidth and timing requirement.
     
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    I know it feels bad to be milked by Intel when you see a much more cheaper variant. :D Poor guy.


    So cool you are. Intel troll. And yet you can't understand that on FHD with your 1080Ti you can't get a single extra fps. :D

    Mantra? Maybe the rumours said 5GHz, AMD never. So what mantra are you talking about? You talk about high TDP when you have a Coffee Lake K product line with enourmous TDP. Funny guy you are. And not to forget, if you call it mantra, 9900K also had the mantra of 5GHz and didn't get it.
     
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    If you think overclocking increases IPC then you clearly do not understand what it means. That's like saying you can carry more water per bottle by using more bottles.
     
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    My god, so much uneducated noise here.

    Ryzen doesn't need to reach 5Ghz, because the clock speed is irrelevant when not coupled with IPC - which stands for Instructions PER CLOCK. That means that a processor with higher IPC can do more on the same clocks when compared with processors that have lower IPC.

    If you want a 5Ghz CPU, perhaps you're interested in this?
    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-9590+Eight-Core&id=2014
    (The answer to this sarcastic question is 'no', because this CPU IPC sucks, even though it can boost to 5Ghz out of the box).

    To add to that, the excellent reviews of Guru3D also show that ryzen 2700x have an IPC score of 148, only 4 points behind the i7 8700k. By doing some simple math, we add 15% to the 2700x IPC and get a score of ~170, so these new processors actually have BETTER IPC than even the 9900k, which has a score of 153.
    https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_2700x_review,9.html
    https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/intel_core_i9_9900k_processor_review,7.html

    So, yeah, not only these ryzen CPUs will be just as fast or even faster than your 5.2Ghz CPU, but they will also consume WAY less power to do so, even before any overclock.
     
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    Man i rofled for about 5 minutes reading this.
     
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    Forget this man. He is an Intel troll.
     
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    As enthusiastic as I am about the new AMD chips, will never be an early adopter. Must wait at least 6 months for all the kinks, bugs, bios issues to be ironed out.
     
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    @Ricardo - I was about to post something similar. Coffee Lake is about 4% faster than Pinnacle Ridge (Zen+) so Zen 2 has just jumped in front by about 11%. Zen 2 at 4.5GHz is like Coffee Lake at 5.0GHz.
     
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