AMD Announces Ryzen 7 3700X, 3800X and Ryzen 9 3900X

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  1. metagamer

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    you did say most of ram issues were fixed with x470. You said the ram issues that Ryzen had were long gone now. You even said with x470 bios updates and AGESA unicode updates, ALL OF THE ISSUES HAVE BEEN CORRECTED. You're speculating. On top of that, you're urging people to buy fast ram now. Based on exactly nothing. Bit over the top, honestly.
     
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    Who am I encouraging to buy fast RAM ? Apparently, your reading comprehension is fucked up. I just told the guy to stay on his current fuckin RAM, and not to bother getting a faster kit.
     
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    Literally here. You're telling people to buy fast ram. Any more questions?
     
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    Did I say buy fast RAM for X470 ? You are just making up bullshit as you go.
     

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    You said that all the ram issues were fixed with bios and AGESA updates for x470. And urged people to buy fast ram for x570. Based on nothing.
     
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    Some people claim the cpu will allow RAM to work better, regardless of whether it's x570 or x470, but who knows... like I said, AMD did say the cpu would run the same on all of those mobo versions, but there's obviously got to be limits, for instance pcie 4 devices would work better on the x570, so not sure exactly what they are guaranteeing to work the same.
     
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    You are just twisting things to your own liking, and bullshit talking/trolling. I never said to buy fast RAM for X570 either. I stated that RAM prices are going to go high. I also said that DDR4 3866-4000 speed is going to most likely be the new standard for Ryzen 3000. I did not suggest anyone buy fast RAM. I suggested people buy RAM now to save money before it goes up. I did not say "I urge everyone here to go out and buy 3866-4000 speed RAM right now". Again, your reading comprehension is obviously fucked. Oh well, ignore time.
     
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    lol

    Also, what is up with all the "BS" and "F" word talk? Are we in Fortnite chat or something?
     
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    AMD told me how the boot kit process works and said it comes with thermal solution. Why would thermal solution be needed? Don't all low end cpus come with cooler already attached? Part of why I even went with amd was to avoid aftermarket coolers and I sure am not going to buy one just for a boot kit...

    Also, you can't request one unless you already have the new cpu. So I can't even start the process and get my motherboard ready until july!

    I'd be better off to return my mobo and buy another when the cpu releases, hoping the mobo I get at that time will already be compatible (going to be a crap shoot, since nobody will know when ordering onlineā€¦). But the problem there is I got the asus b450-i for $120. Normal price is $160, I think. I'd be risking higher cost by waiting to get a mobo later.

    I was tempted to get the x470-f, anyway, but that was when it was on sale for $160, whereas now it's close to $200.

    If newegg would do a really good combo deal from day 1, maybe I'd just take the x570... just not going to at the $250 prices. it would have to be a good enough one for maybe $180 after some discount, then I'd just do that.
     
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    Cool, I see if I go with AMD I will be getting bad support... They just give me lame responses and linked me to the x570 details page when asking them about updating my older mobo.

    I don't have enough problems as it is, so now asus and amd are going to give me more problems figuring out how to get an updated b450 or x470. I'm going to have now ay to know if a mobo ahs already been updated or not when buying online, which is the only place I can buy one.
     
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    3600 Cas 14 was some new stuff showed off by GSkill at Computex. 3600 CAS 16 will likely be good kit as well, I currently use it on my 9900K. I paid $250 for this GSkill Tridentz RGB when memory prices were jacked. A few weeks ago I saw it for $180. For whatever reason right now the kit is out of this world overpriced likely due to some shortage or discontinuation even. 3200 Cas 14 is good stuff (I run on my 2700X) and will likely still be good on Zen 2, Tridentz RGB is $165 on Newegg which is pretty fair compared to the $220 I got it for back on black Friday. I found 3000 Cas 14 of the same series for $137 on newegg. These are not terrible prices and should represent good memory for Zen 2 as well. It will be interesting to see how Zen 2 performs on different memory types and there is new stuff coming like GSkill's Neo memory. One thing to keep in mind is the 9900K requires good memory to extract the most out of it as well so it's not really a dividing factor anymore. Dual channel DDR4 seems to be reaching its limit in certain cases. Even my 3600 Cas 16 memory can limit the 9900K and represents a solid middle ground in the applications effected by memory performance.

    3000 Cas 14 16GB Red $117 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb...s 14&cm_re=3000_cas_14-_-20-232-225-_-Product
    3000 Cas 14 16GB RGB $137 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb...s 14&cm_re=3000_cas_14-_-20-232-487-_-Product
    3000 Cas 14 32GB Black $215 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232214

    3200 Cas 14 16GB (RGB) $165 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb...&cm_re=amd_3200_memory-_-20-232-649-_-Product
    3200 Cas 14 32GB (Black) $260 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232218
     
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    If you have an existing B450/X470 just go download the latest bios from their website. If you are building all new I would just get X570 really.
     
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    GSkill was showing two systems running on 3600 14-14-14-34 1.4v at computex. This is either new memory or an OC but either way it represents what I think will be a good spot for Ryzen. It was't clear in the information I saw whether it was a kit or a tweak for those timings. The most interesting part is Gskill had several fantastic memory clocks on 2000 series (yes 2000) CPUs running on X570 boards. Also keep in mind that anything over 2133 Mhz 1.2v is considered an OC for DDR4 and represents binned products with profiles they should run at provided other system compatibility.
     
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    I can't. I don't have a CPU. I have the mobo in anticipation of the cpu purchase. So I need a way to update BIOS. And since they send thermal solution that must mean it doesn't have a cooler on it? So only people with aftermarket coolers could use it??? I'm not going to go buy a cooler just to be able to update the BIOS so now I am about assuming I'll have to return the b450 and wait.
     
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    Why are you making things so difficult ? All you have to do is buy any current Ryzen 1000 or 2000 series CPU that includes a CPU cooler in the box, and put the CPU in your board. Then, just update the BIOS to the latest version, and return the CPU and cooler back for a refund after. You are making things way harder than they need to be.
     

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    No I'm not. Most places I know of that sell them don't let you return them once opened. Newegg doesn't, at least (plus I have returned a lot of parts to newegg lately). And then I'd be out return shipping, as well.

    They said the cooler they send out (AMD) is an "AMD AM4 A-Series processor". Do those not have coolers? I assume not or why would they bother sending thermal compound?
     
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    Amazon has free returns. Just buy that CPU, update BIOS, and return it. Again, you are asking questions that are not even needed.
     
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    why in the world does nobody have these cpus up for preorder when they know the release date already? Last thing I want is it to be like intel 8th gen releases where stores price gouged due to high demand and them selling out.
     
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    yes it is needed... Asus said get a boot kit. AMD told me which level of cpu you get in the boot kit. I asked about it. If that is the way you're "supposed" to do it, then the question is relevant.

    And now asus is giving me bs answers, as well. They say no BIOS update has even been released for their mobos, yet their site ahs a chart showing each model's BIOS that makes it compatible with 3xxx.
     

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