AMD announces Radeon VII (7nm)

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  1. Mpampis

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    Well, that also makes sense. And who knows, as time passes, the card could get better performance with driver updates, and the price will probably drop. Though I'm not sure if someone would fork out 600$+ in the summer, and then some more when Navi comes out in 2020.
     
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    I doubt we will have to wait that long for Navi. I have heard it needs another re-spin, but I'm still expecting a second half launch in 2019. High end Navi was always scheduled for a 2020 release.
     
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    Lisa Su sad on Shareholders call that they need few quarters to clear the stock from mining, so this was at the end of October, so second Q2 2019 look reasonable.
    So when Ryzen 3000 will launch we would have Navi to replace RX 570~Vega64 and Vega7 on top for Prosumer 16GB GPU.
     
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    I would expect just that. They didn't get to roll in money cause of miners. It's blatantly cleae where the money is for them and where they used most of their rnd budget the Ryzen cpus. It's good enough for what they have I was expecting worse tbh.
     

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    I wonder if there will be any stock left for gamers when the card is released. FP64 performance virtually on par with the $3000 Titan V. So pros and businesses that can make use of all this compute power may snap them up more eagerly than gamers.
     
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    That card is on another level than any Nvidia's offering. Prosumer and smooth gaming under thousand bucks. RTX and DLSS are for kiddos.
     
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    I was just reading that. I'm glad about AMD selling cards direct. This should help to keep cards at close to RRP, instead off greedy retailers putting some of the outlandish price hikes on.
     
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    https://techgage.com/news/radeon-vii-caps-fp64-performance/

    There seems to be some confusion on this but currently HardOCP/Techgage both asked and AMD told them no FP64.
     
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    Of-course, it's a "gaming card", nothing more nothing less. Some users here just got shot down with their expectations of this product.
     
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    So is this a 128ROP card or not?
     
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    Nope that was also misreported by Ryan at anandtech among others.

    It sounds like he sat down with some people prior to the CES conference and whoever it was gave him a lot of wrong info. Which kind of sucks because he typically has a good reputation. I'm willing to let it slide tho because he's clearly upset about it.
     
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    Interesting! News:

    From 1 Side(Game Dev's) we know:
    https://www.hardocp.com/article/2019/01/14/amd_radeon_vii_interview_scott_herkelman/2

    From other side(AMD) we now hear this:
    https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gp..._supports_directml_-_an_alternative_to_dlss/1

    I think AMD got some more trick in their sleeves for 2019 :)

    P/S - why do I have a feeling the DLSS going to be another "G-Sync VS Free-Sync?"
    NV mage Gamers to pay for it before MS released DirectML for Free?

    P.S2: I have read on Anandtech that DirectML will Use FP16 for better performance
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/12549/microsoft-windows-machine-learning-for-gaming

    look about this chart:
    ALL pascal Based GPU's offer 1/64 of FP32 performance:
    1080TI- 177.2 GFLOPS (1:64)!!
    while Vega offers 2X (25,166 GFLOPS (2:1)) and Polaris offers 1:1!(6,589 GFLOPS (1:1))
    [​IMG]

    https://i.**********/x1TpwBPb/DirectML.jpg
     
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    HWgeek, AMD already uses their FP16 in games like Far Cry 5 and Wolfenstein 2. It's no surprise that they'd extend the usefulness of FP16.

    However, when we look at those games, then it's clear that GTX1080ti still trounces the Vega 64.

    Finally, DirectML works across the board, so, it's not going to be a unique technology for AMD. Where as Nvidia now has the option of both their DLSS implementation and DirectML.

    No tricks up the sleeve if the competition already has it...
     
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